Leslie Johnston [00:00:00]:
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. This is. Welcome back us here in the summertime.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:06]:
In the summertime.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:07]:
Shooting some summer episodes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:09]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:10]:
And we just love this podcast. It's so fun.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:13]:
I love this podcast.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:14]:
We hope you guys like it. Or else it's just Morgan and I. I mean, we would do this even.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:18]:
Even if no one was listening to it. No, seriously, it's so fun. I have an unpopular opinion.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:26]:
Oh, good.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:27]:
That I think I'm. I'm actually kind of flushing it out in my head. But I think this.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:32]:
Okay.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:33]:
I think that Instagram is the only social media app we should be using anymore.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:46]:
Oh.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:47]:
I think we should all consolidate to one social media app. And there's not, like, multiple things that people should be using because I don't like to keep up with people on multiple spaces. I think everyone should just perfect and learn one social media.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:00]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:00]:
This is the one standard social media we have, and there's no other options. I just feel like it would simplify.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:06]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:07]:
And then I. And the reason why I'm saying this is because I just opened up my Facebook a couple days ago, and I didn't realize that my stories on Instagram are linked to my stories on Facebook. So all of my stories were also posting on Facebook, and there are like hundreds and hundreds of story replies. Not because hundred hundreds and hundreds reply to my stories, but because I've missed the them for years and I just haven't.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:33]:
You just have never known.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:34]:
I just didn't know. Like, I only use Facebook to basically go on Facebook Marketplace and look for stuff 100%. Like, I didn't even really know people were still on it. Isn't that insane?
Leslie Johnston [00:01:44]:
It's probably like, everybody, you know back in Texas, literally, like, and they think.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:48]:
That under the age. Terrible person.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:50]:
Yeah. 30.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:51]:
And I just don't respond to anything that they're saying. And it's not just. It's actually not just older people. It's like younger people, too were commenting on stuff, and I was like, shoot, guys, I think we all moved over to this other thing a while back. I didn't know. I just, like. It's a lot of effort to maintain multiple.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:09]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:09]:
Accounts and profiles.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:11]:
Although we did learn in the Tik Tok ban that Instagram can't hold up with videos.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:15]:
Tik Tok is different, though. I feel like Tik Tok is, like, not social. Tik Tok is, like, purely consuming, but little. It's not connected.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:26]:
It's a little YouTube.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:27]:
It doesn't bond us. It's us watching each other make spectacles of ourselves and we do need it to survive.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:34]:
Just watching other people. You don't know. Yeah. Like I on Tik Tok, like, I will intentionally not follow people I know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:41]:
Isn't it funny how, like, I actually.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:42]:
Don'T want to see your videos. I want to see, like, random funny people. I don't know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:46]:
That's what I want is, though, about TikTok, where it's like, on Instagram, if I see somebody that I know post something, I'm like, oh, they're posting this. That's really cool. If I see someone I know on Tick Tock, it's like seeing your teacher.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:59]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:59]:
At like, a restaurant outside of school or something.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:02]:
You don't belong here.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:03]:
I know. What is that? It's like, I know you're not supposed to be here.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:06]:
Yeah. For a little while, I thought, you know what? I'm gonna. I. I think I'm gonna become an influencer because I would like you for these stuff. I don't think I can be.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:16]:
You could.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:16]:
Not cool. But I started on Tick Toc. I was like, I want to block every single person I know. This is for everybody who does not know me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:25]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:26]:
Instagram, I post for my people.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:28]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:28]:
And then Tick Tock. I was like, strangers, strangers.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:31]:
Only strangers.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:32]:
And then I was so embarrassed when people, like, found it who knew me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:34]:
Yes. They're like, oh, I saw you post that thing on Tick Tock. And you're like, no, just people in, like, Abu Dhabi. You saw me posting that? No one I know ever saw. Ever saw that. There's no way.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:45]:
Oh, I know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:47]:
But I love it. You're right. It has to be just Instagram and Tick Tock. But Tick Tock is not meant to be.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:51]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:51]:
A social media. It's meant to just be like a circus.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:55]:
Yes. And threads. Who's on threads?
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:58]:
I never did it. Did you do it?
Leslie Johnston [00:04:00]:
Wait, is threads different than X?
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:02]:
Threads is the Instagram Twitter, isn't it?
Leslie Johnston [00:04:07]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:07]:
Instagram's version of Twitter. X is Twitter, isn't it?
Leslie Johnston [00:04:11]:
Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're right.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:12]:
I think.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:12]:
But I kind of thought in my mind threads and X were the same.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:15]:
I don't have Twitter. I don't have threads.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:17]:
No. Show me Pictures.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:19]:
Picture. I need a little eye.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:21]:
Draw pictures.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:22]:
No words.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:23]:
No. I feel like Threads and X. Like, this isn't. Maybe this is unpopular, but, like, you're only on there if you've got, like, really big opinions. And it's just a bunch of opinionated people in there. And I'm like, I'm good.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:35]:
I just think we all learned back when Facebook first came out and we were all posting statuses, I think we all learned that we don't really need like open forum, none of us. I didn't need that. A lot of my friends didn't need it. We weren't doing anything useful with it.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:50]:
Yeah. Do you remember when Facebook changed its like, layout back in the day where it used to be like your status was over here and your search bar was in a totally different spot. And then all of a sudden it's like they switched them and so then when people went to go search somebody, they posted as their.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:09]:
Oh my God. Gosh, it's so.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:13]:
I never did it, but I definitely had like typed someone's name in and then been like, delete, delete, delete.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:19]:
I'm about to post. This is my status. That is honestly probably a great tool on their part though. Yeah, they probably caused some serious drama.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:27]:
What if we just switch these?
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:28]:
Yeah, this would be good for us.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:30]:
That's so funny.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:32]:
Speaking of socials, actually, we thought it would be funny to talk about today, especially as summertime tends to be more social and you're probably have more time out with your friends to be doing stuff. It's funny, like we all share locations with our friends and it's funny how during the regular semester, everybody has their usual spots, their usual locations.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:56]:
All your sims are in there.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:57]:
Yes, it is like sims. When you open up our, our OG group chat and you share locations, it's like, okay, I know where everybody is today and what time it is. But then in summertime that all kind of goes off the rails because everybody's doing different stuff. And it, it I feel like what, whatever age and stage you are, it can be a hard thing over summertime when you have your friends all doing stuff, inevitably posting stuff because it's fun to post your life and what you're doing and then feel like, oh gosh, like my summer isn't that fun. Or, yeah, I'm not doing as much as they are or like they're getting fit this summer and I feel like I'm getting fat this summer. Or like, you know, like all my friends are like doing these really fun things. I didn't get invite. Like, there's just so much social media comparison.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:45]:
And not only is everybody posting more in the summer because they can, but also you're looking more in the summertime because you have more time in the summer.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:52]:
True.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:53]:
So basically the conversation we kind of wanted to have today is like, maybe what are some healthy social media guidelines or, like, ways to protect your heart when it comes to what you're watching? Because I think what you're watching is always what you're using to compare yourself and sort of, like, measure yourself.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:13]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:15]:
That's true of, like, television and movies. That's true of all kinds of social media.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:20]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:20]:
And I just think that can be a dangerous game when you have a lot of time on your hands.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:24]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:24]:
So. Oh, actually, this could be funny. On Sunday, Mark had us all pull out our screen time. What was yours, your average screen time of the week?
Leslie Johnston [00:07:34]:
Well, my phone fell into the river and basically.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:39]:
Oh, dang it. So you don't even have. You don't even have your screen time.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:42]:
I would have it for the last. I had to get a new phone, so I would have it for, like, the last maybe day or so since I've had this phone.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:48]:
Okay.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:49]:
But, yeah, tell me yours and I'll see if I have mine.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:51]:
My daily average right now is five hours and three minutes, which is insane to think about that.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:59]:
Yeah, mine. Mine was really bad yesterday. What did I do yesterday?
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:04]:
What was yours yesterday?
Leslie Johnston [00:08:06]:
Seven hours.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:06]:
Oh, my gosh. What was that?
Leslie Johnston [00:08:10]:
It says messages. Was the. And I was an hour and 41 minutes on my messages. Now, to be fair, I was also awake for a lot of time yesterday. I had to get up at 5, so I was awake for a lot.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:24]:
But interesting.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:26]:
Yeah, I also was on TikTok for an hour. Cause I've gotten in this horrible habit of falling asleep to TikTok.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:31]:
Oh, I. I did one thing I. I did that helped, actually. My phone is now plugged in across the room because Benji is really big on. Yeah. Especially while I'm pregnant. He's like, I don't want this phone on the bed while you're pregnant with a baby inside of you. So now I have to plug my phone in across the room.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:54]:
Although it can be on, like, your person all day long.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:58]:
I mean, I think you probably would prefer for that not to be true also. But specifically sleep.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:03]:
That's really funny.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:04]:
The thing, though, is, like, it's not. When it's on me, it's not plugged in. Being plugged in is the problem.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:10]:
That's the problem. Okay. Okay.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:12]:
Being plugged into the power Source and the EMFs and the electricity. I'm sure it's bad all day long, but it's especially bad when it's plugged in. So when you have, like, a long charger that you can just like, roll over and scroll. It's not good for you. It's the best. It's the best, but it's also the worst. But you better believe, unplug that thing in the morning, and then I wake up to some good old TikToks to just start my day.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:33]:
Start your day off right.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:35]:
But even that can be dangerous, because I know then you're like, well, why am I not cooking all these great things? And why am I not working out and eating healthy? And why am I not. How do you. How do you deal with that? Or do you feel like you struggle with that, with social media comparison?
Leslie Johnston [00:09:49]:
So I've never gone on, like, a social media break. I mean, I have, but it was more like, because I wanted to not, like, waste my time necessarily.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:57]:
You're like, hey, guys, I'm taking a break from Instagram. Don't miss later.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:01]:
Also, yeah, we don't need to announce when we're going on a social media break, FYI, in case you thought that was necessary. It was necessary. It is not, I would say, social media. I think the biggest way it affects me is being unhappy with my current. Like, it makes me a little more materialistic. Like, I feel like I want things like, I watch. Like, I'll follow my, like, influencers that I like and what they're wearing, and I'm like, I have to have what they're wearing. Like, I'm.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:33]:
I'm not. I don't. I'm really glad, like, either God's protecting me, but I feel like I don't necessarily fall super into the, like, oh, well, they're doing something fun, and I'm not. Like, that doesn't affect me as much as, like, oh, yeah, their house is super nice. I want my house to look like that. Especially in this. During the remodel phase was tough because it was like, I was dealing with a very different budget than a lot of other people were dealing with, especially online. And you're like, you're watching these people who are, like, 25 years old with these, like, massive homes, but of course, they don't live in California and they don't, whatever, work at a church.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:07]:
And I feel great. I started to go, like, I'm so grateful for what I have. Like, there's a lot of things, like, it's not lost on me, but as I got further and further into social media with house remodel stuff and all of that, I started to go from feeling like, man, I can't even believe I get to, like, redo some of this fixer upper house to. Well, dang it. Like, I can't get marble countertops. I have to do the quartz countertops.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:34]:
And I'm like, this is stupid.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:35]:
Quartz is expensive too.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:36]:
Like, it's all expensive.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:37]:
It's all expensive. But it was like, I started to go like, well, shoot, I shouldn't have done this color. I should have done that. It started making me, like, not appreciate what I had.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:46]:
Yeah. And less excited, Polly, about the progress you were making.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:50]:
Exactly. And then even with stupid small stuff like what influencers are wearing, I'm like, well, I want that. But, like, I'm in a mode where I'm trying to save money right now, and I'm watching that, and I'm like, well, maybe it's not a big deal if I just order that or if I. Whatever. And then you start slipping into this stuff where you're like, oh, I'm spending more than I want to, or that I even should or have. And then you're caught in this, like, bad cycle.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:14]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:15]:
So I feel like, for me, that's a. That's a pretty big mine similar to.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:19]:
Yours, except it's more, like, effort focused. So I don't. I don't really watch and be like, oh, I should be. Why are my friends doing this? And I'm not doing this. I don't feel like that. Mine's more like, I'll get on and watch creators or teachers or people who feel like they're using their platforms to, like, do these really cool things.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:38]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:38]:
And I feel like I'm jealous of their motivation. Like, oh, they're creating something, and I'm just. Just, like, sitting here and doing, like, it makes me feel bad for not being something different, I guess. Like, I don't necessarily achieve around you. The. The achiever in me is. Is, like, unhappy with what I've contributed to the world, you know? Like, yeah, even. And this is, like, kind of.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:58]:
This is honestly really dumb and dark that I think this way. Maybe it means that I need a break from watching people, but I don't look at what they have and think I want that, but I look at what they've built and think I want to build something like that. And I almost don't get happy for people that have built something. Like, it. A jealousy in me where it's like, okay, well, they're doing more, like. And. And again, like, what. What's funny about that is, like, I'm not even trying to be them.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:23]:
Like, our goals are not the same. Our lives are not the Same. So it's not even like I open Instagram and think, how do I be exactly like this person?
Leslie Johnston [00:13:31]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:31]:
But to your point, it kind of creates this, like, lack of gratitude in me and lack of appreciation for what I have going on and what I've created when I've. I'm also building something. It's just different. Has a different trajectory, has a different timeline than what they do. I don't know if you felt this way too, but I also feel like social media can be kind of a, like a career distraction. Like, you see what somebody else is making and building and doing and your first thought is like, well, I could do. Yeah, I could do that. Even though that might not be who you are, like what you're called to do, but you're kind of like tempted towards it because it looks fun and easy.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:10]:
Like, I think it can be a little distracting because. Yeah. Because you want what, something else.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:17]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:17]:
You want what someone else has. It's like, I don't know, there's just lots of, lots of stuff to watch and not a lot of guardrails around yourself. And it's. I think it's a little. There's a reason why one of the instructions in the Ten Commandments is like, not to covet.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:33]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:33]:
Because we are naturally going to be people that want what we don't have. That's like a toddler problem. Right. Like your sibling was playing with a certain toy and you wanted it because they were playing.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:44]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:45]:
And that probably hasn't been cured in adulthood. So I think that, like, not necessarily limiting what you watch, but like changing how you watch stuff.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:56]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:57]:
Might be healthy. Especially if you're finding yourself in getting kind of dragged down by what you're seeing on social. It's just a lot of exposure to a lot of people's things.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:08]:
It is. And the others, I think we don't talk about the other, like evil that can come with social. Social media, we talk a lot about comparison.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:20]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:20]:
Which is so, so fair. And we should talk about that on this episode of like comparing yourself to other people and thinking like, they have it better, they look better, and then you get down on yourself. I also think there's the side of social media we don't talk about where you judge a lot of people on social media.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:35]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:35]:
Like we, you. I mean, you see the comments on, on people's posts or on their tick tocks or whatever and you're like, oh my gosh, these are terrible comments. But someone's sitting behind there typing them or you're sending them to the people you like and you're making fun of somebody or you're like, oh, my gosh, look at this person. There's like, you may not even know them, but you're like, this is so cringe.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:57]:
Like, oh, literally every time that I look at a video of mine that I've posted and I see the same sent, oh, yeah, like emoticon or whatever, you're like, oh, gosh, someone hates me and they're sending it to someone else that they like and they're making fun of me right now using. It never crosses my mind that they're like, oh, maybe they thought it was cool and they're sending it to someone because they think terrible. It's like always. It's kind of ruthless.
Leslie Johnston [00:16:19]:
I know. And we do that to other people.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:22]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:16:23]:
But, like, it's kind of all. And I'm saying this, like, preaching to the choir. Like, I probably did that yesterday where I was like, oh, like, Christy and I have this, like, ongoing back and forth message, which it's to people we don't know. It's on TikTok. Like, people, we have no idea who they are, but it's like, we'll send like, funny cringy ones back and forth. But then I'm like, there's actually a person behind that thing that created that. And afterwards you do feel a little bit like, oh, gosh, that's actually a real person behind there. And I should feel more bad than I actually do.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:53]:
But it's such a weird space because sometimes people are being themselves and it tests your ability to, like, love and be happy for and support somebody just because that's your heart.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:04]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:04]:
Versus judgment.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:05]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:05]:
And then there's also, like, other people that are very like, click. He's in those videos where it's like, the purpose of the video is one thing, but there's something. There was a girl who used to make videos and it used to just absolutely irk me and I guess everybody else on the Internet, she would make these salads.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:26]:
But the way that she would chop.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:28]:
And prepare things was just like, so chaotic and disorderly. And she would do it on purpose so that it would piss people off. And it worked. Right. And I do feel like there's a certain level of, like, spectacle to tick tock too, where it's like, everyone's putting.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:41]:
Themselves out there and, like, any attention is good attention.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:44]:
Any attention is good attention. And that's another aspect of it too, that can be very dangerous. You all of a sudden have this platform to where you can kind of be the center of attention whenever you want to. Like you can. It's like when you were a kid and you invited all your family into the living room to watch your performance on the fireplace. But it's like you can do that now anytime you want to.
Leslie Johnston [00:18:09]:
Oh yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:09]:
It can be about you and about your personality.
Leslie Johnston [00:18:12]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:13]:
It's a very self centered activity that we have at our fingertips. Whether we are drawing attention to ourselves.
Leslie Johnston [00:18:21]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:21]:
Or whether we are looking at all these other people, what they have, what they're doing or not doing. And we're either coveting it and we're jealous of it or we're casting judgment on it. It's all revolving around yes. Which is.
Leslie Johnston [00:18:36]:
Yeah, like, which is dangerous. Why everybody now? I won't say everybody. People still want to like do great things in life. And I'm not even saying social media is a bad job to have. Like, if you're an influencer, if you're doing it in a great way and you're influenc people, well then I think that's an incredible career. Like that's awesome. But it does worry me. Like I remember the shift, like I'm old enough where like my junior high, in high school, like there wasn't really.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:04]:
So there was Facebook and it was like that was kind of the social media, but still it was more like statuses and you'd maybe randomly upload photos, but there were no filters, There were no, like, here's what I'm doing today. Like there was no influencing. It was literally just like talking to your friends.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:18]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:19]:
And I remember the switch from like. Cause growing up, especially in like high school and then going to college, I was always like a camp counselor or a small group leader. And I remember when it went from younger kids being like, I want to be a astronaut or a doctor or a lawyer or a firefighter or whatever. Like kind of these things that we're all like, I want to go help people in the world to like, I remember my first conversation with someone. They're like, well, I want to be an influencer because I like want free stuff.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:51]:
Right. Or you want like notoriety, fame, you want to be somebody?
Leslie Johnston [00:19:54]:
Or I don't want to like have to answer to anybody. Or I don't want to have to like, I just want. Yeah, like I want it to. I want to be an influencer. And I'm like, oh, that's like such a bummer that it's flipped from like, I want to go help people. In the world and make a difference to, like, I just want to be well known. And there's always been that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:13]:
I want to be well known. And for what purpose?
Leslie Johnston [00:20:15]:
Yeah, exactly. If you have good, like, reasons behind it and like, good motivation. But I think that like, there would be somewhat of like an emptiness or like more. That'd be a difficult road, actually. Yeah, like, I think you think you want that. Like, even now I'm like, oh, it'd be great if like we were so well known with this podcast that this could be like our full time thing. But it's like, yeah, but like, maybe there's still stuff that God, like, wants us to do, you know, in our jobs right now. And I think it's interesting how it's changed our culture to like, what is success? If you don't have a lot of followers, then you're not successful.
Leslie Johnston [00:20:54]:
Even if maybe you're really successful in life, like, and you've got a great job and you've got a great family and whatever. But then it's still like, well, when someone wants to know anything about you, they're like, what's their name? And they look up their social media and if you don't have one or if you don't have a lot of followers, there's a little bit of like.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:10]:
Oh, like, isn't that weird?
Leslie Johnston [00:21:11]:
Isn't that funny?
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:12]:
I'm. When I moved here, I remember having that shift in my brain partially because, and this is true, like, different regions are known for different things. So one of the things that the west coast is known for is the influencing. I'm an innovator, I try new things. I'm creative. And that's, that's actually bred into a lot of like Benji and I were talking yesterday, like the inhabiting of the us like California was inhabit. The west coast was inhabited later because we started over here like in Connecticut. And then people couldn't get across like mountain rang mountain ranges for a while.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:44]:
So the people that came over here took great risk in coming over here and they, they were like out searching for something. They wanted to build something. And, and because of like where, you know, LA and Hollywood is and like even the Bay Area being like, like a massive tech producing hub, like lots of stuff over here is about what you're creating and what you're building and it becomes like pretty cool, kind of like hand in hand with who you are as a person. So it's like that was the first time that I ever felt like self conscious about my following, which is crazy. Because used to be it was like, oh, I just have this many Facebook friends or I have as many Instagram followers as I have people in my life. Like, it wasn't meant to be some significant number. And then I came here and I remember meeting people who had built really cool, like, brands and businesses online and thinking like, and they're not building brands or businesses about themselves, they're like building stuff about a product, but because of their product, they had like accrued a following. And I was like, oh, shoot, like, am I nobody? Because I don't know anybody.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:52]:
You know what I'm saying? And it's like, what's funny about that is that, you know, however many followers that I have or want to have, like, none of these people are our friends. Like, yeah, we don't have. We've got like 8, 8, 8, 150 or something like that. And it's like we don't know any of them. Like, they're not, they're not. We love them and we love that this podcast is helpful for you, but it's like to base your feeling of.
Leslie Johnston [00:23:16]:
Your worth on people you actually don't know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:19]:
You don't know. Yeah, it's just like a very fascinating. And it's weird that that's like the time and culture that we are in is like, that is part of what makes you successful. Like, your following is a part of what makes you.
Leslie Johnston [00:23:33]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:33]:
Well known. Or what makes me want to run in the same circle as you is like even, even the. This is what's crazy. The fact that we even live in the kind of space where it's like, this is kind of honest and weird. But like, we, we always thought like, oh, we have to get to a certain level of followers in order to have access to certain people. Like, yes. Which is, which is crazy. It's crazy that like, that's the way.
Leslie Johnston [00:23:56]:
That, like, people don't take you seriously.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:58]:
Unless you have a lot of followers.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:01]:
What I know, which it's like, this.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:04]:
Has to be toxic. This has to be having long term effects on us that we don't even know about social media.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:09]:
Yes. Because some of the best people in my life who I respect the most don't even have a social media.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:16]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:17]:
And I'm like, oh, and isn't it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:19]:
Weird that that's actually a red flag now?
Leslie Johnston [00:24:21]:
Yes. And actually the people who are growing a lot on social media aren't necessarily like, I mean, it's just like not.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:31]:
People you want to look.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:31]:
Not people I want to look up to.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:32]:
Or be.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:33]:
Yeah. So interesting.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:36]:
It's so interesting.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:37]:
I. I think, like, giving this, like, stamp of approval with, like, no character. Like, there's nothing put behind that except for what's like they physically put out there.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:47]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:48]:
And we all fall into it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:49]:
We all fall into it. And then there's the other, like, do it for the gram. Has always been. At least for a long time, I feel like. Has been like, the picture. It didn't happen. Like, that's not new. That's been around for a long time.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:02]:
But I think about that socially. Like, there were times where when I would go out and do something, I would feel very bothered by the fact that I hadn't captured it and it wasn't like I was capturing it.
Leslie Johnston [00:25:16]:
Oh, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:16]:
Just to remember it or to, like, commemorate. And I actually love. I love getting ideas from people online. Like, I love posting about what we're doing and, you know, how we're having fun. Like, I just think that's it.
Leslie Johnston [00:25:29]:
Sometimes it's like a memory book.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:30]:
Yeah, it's a memory book. That's what it is. Like, this is honestly a really cool scrapbook that we'll have. Which. Which is cool because, you know, then we don't have to keep on physical scrapbook. But then at the same time, like, there was. There was a time where I was like, oh, shoot. Like, if I'm not taking.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:48]:
There have been. There have been times where I have been. Like, if I'm not taking and posting pictures of what I'm doing, then no one's gonna think that I have a life or that I'm doing anything. There's like a. Almost like a preservation of self image that you feel like you have to put out online in order for everyone to know that you're doing okay.
Leslie Johnston [00:26:06]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:06]:
And it's like that we can become a slave to this thing if we feel like this dictates what we look like to other people or if people respect us because of this. Like, it's. Yeah, I don't know. I. I don't feel that way anymore. I don't know when it changed for me. I think life got busy and it wasn't like I had some kind of spiritual cool moment where I was like, I'm giving this up. Whatever.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:27]:
It wasn't like that. It was more so I forgot. But there. More so now I have times where I'll, like, I'll go several months and I haven't posted something on my main grid or I went to a social event and then I forgot to take any Pictures because it was so fun. And it's like, that's the thing that I want more of. I'm not ever gonna be someone where I'm like, I'm gonna remove social media from my phone. I'm not gonna take a sabbatical or a hiatus unless I feel like God's saying to do that. I'm not gonna do that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:56]:
But what I do want is more times where I'm not on my phone. Like, I do want more days. We have friends who do one, like one day. No, no phones. And it's like, I could totally see that being a cool rhythm where it's. I don't know, like, maybe that's one habit you can try to build into the summer. For whatever reason you're struggling with the social media. One person who has a perfect relationship with social media because I think there's too many potholes in it for you to not have, like some kind of a struggle with it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:23]:
But I just wonder, like, is there a way in which you have like a regular built in point to your schedule where it doesn't come with you always, or it's not looked at always? And then by not making it an always, you're not making it like a need that you have to have where you have to look at it every single day?
Leslie Johnston [00:27:39]:
That's true. That's interesting that you say that about kind of like making that shift in your mind with like pictures at an event or at a social thing that you did. Because I do feel like when I was younger, and again, it wasn't this like lightning moment from God being like, you need to stop doing this, or a whole change of heart. It just like, maybe slowly I grew out of it. But I remember feeling like back when, like, okay, our Instagrams were building and started like when it was like, oh, I can take a photo by myself and post it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:11]:
It was like selfies.
Leslie Johnston [00:28:13]:
Yeah. It was like, oh, no, this is cool. Like, this is cool. And. And I remember like going to things and if I didn't get a good photo of me, I'd be like, disappointed.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:25]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:28:25]:
And I'd be like, what the heck?
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:26]:
What a waste.
Leslie Johnston [00:28:27]:
Like, I. It's almost like I couldn't be happy until I got a good photo of me to be able to post once we had left that I could actually enjoy what I was doing. And I'm like, oh, that's terrible.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:40]:
I think we've all done that.
Leslie Johnston [00:28:41]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:41]:
Where it's like, it's horrible.
Leslie Johnston [00:28:43]:
Oh, I just like, I have to get A good photo of me because I need to post this. And then I felt like I either went through, like, a couple hard seasons, like a breakup here and there or whatever, and then I felt like I had. Which I still feel like I kind of carry to this day. This, like, moment where I felt like what I'm posting has to. Not that I have to, like, post everything in my life, like, the good and the bad, but I'm not gonna post something if it was a terrible time and pretend like it was good.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:12]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:29:13]:
Like, to me, it was like, if it's a hard season, you won't see me on social media. Like, I won't probably be posting. And now. Now it's different because, like, life is busy and I feel like I just post less in general. But. Yeah, but I'm doing good. But I'm like. I remember back then being like, I actually can't get myself to post something that looks happy when I'm not happy, or that that was a good time, even though it was a bad time.
Leslie Johnston [00:29:38]:
And so I think that's what bugs me a little bit about social media that I kinda can't stand is I feel like people post acting like things are perfect when they're not.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:50]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:29:51]:
And when I know behind the scenes that, like, if someone's posting something and I'm like, well, I know that that actually was terrible, but it's like they're posting like, it was perfect. And it doesn' me mad that I feel like, oh, it's not truthful. It makes me mad more for the people that are jealous and. And go, oh, man, I wish I was there. And I wish I was that person. And I'm like, no, no, no. Because if you only knew what was behind the scenes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:15]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:15]:
Like, I think if we got a backseat look, I don't know if that's the right word, but like a backstage look into a lot of the influencers that we follow, which I understand you need to post if you're doing that for a living. You got to post and do your thing. But. But I think if we really saw what was behind everything, you wouldn't necessarily want to, like, trade lives with that person.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:36]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:37]:
And not even that their life is worse or better than yours, but I just. I feel so strongly like I want people to, like, appreciate their own life that they're living.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:45]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:46]:
And it's such a trap to be like, well, that person's life is perfect. Look at their social media. Or their husband is perfect. And I'm like, no, their husband's probably just as like messed up as yours or like just as they have this many problems. But they're posting like, it's perfect.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:00]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:01]:
So I think if you are going to be on socials, I'm not saying you have to post and trauma dump on everybody, but like, it's probably good to keep, if you're really active to keep some level of like, hey, I'm not trying to look perfect. Reality and reality. Because like, reality is actually a lot better for people than kind of this curated fake Persona.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:23]:
Yeah. We were laughing before this episode because Cole Lebrant posted a picture of their game room and it's a disaster.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:30]:
Crazy. Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:31]:
And it's like, but like the take on it was so positive. It was like, we love our playroom and look how much use it gets. And it's like I videos and photos like that. It's positive because you see that their kids are playing and they're having a blast. But also it's reality in that their house is a mess and they're okay with it.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:47]:
And all the comments are like, thank goodness.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:49]:
Thank you.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:50]:
I'm posting this. They're like, I was feeling so bad about myself because my playroom is a mess.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:55]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:55]:
And I'm looking at all these moms with their perfect houses.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:58]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:59]:
And you're like, yes. See, I love that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:01]:
100. 100. And I'm like, there's the balance that we have to find. Because I think you're 100% right. You don't want to, you don't want to always be resenting your life because you think somebody else's is perfect. You see perfect photos from someone's family vacation and you think, we need to have a perfect family vacation. And then your family vacation happens and it's not perfect because you're all human beings and stuff does go wrong. Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:26]:
You don't want to be like wishing for something else or like not content with your own life. And then at the same time, there's the other aspect to socials. If you're like a regular contributor creator where you make your whole brand about being honest but sometimes your honesty comes across as like a trauma dumping or it's so negative that it's, it's like it kind of brings people into more of like a fear based mindset where they're, they're either rehearsing their own insecurities or thoughts. Like, there's this one person, I don't know how she always finds me. I. It must be the enemy. It must be the Enemy because I don't follow her. And I always scroll past her videos, but it's this nurse doctor who for whatever reason is always talking about these like, norovirus outbreaks in her er.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:09]:
Oh, gosh.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:10]:
And she always puts the dates on them so you can see that it's a current video. And I don't know how this always finds me because it doesn't matter what, what season it is. She's like, I've seen a lot of kids hospitalized for the norovirus. Norovirus is like a stomach bug, basically. And it always finds me. And I'm like, how does this crap get on my feet? I don't want this. I don't look for this. I don't want to find this.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:32]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:32]:
And it's like even the, the constant. Not that. And again, she's probably doing this for like a medical. She, she's like a medical professional.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:41]:
Don't put that online.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:43]:
Like, I know she has an audience that she's helping, but it's not me.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:46]:
No.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:47]:
And I, I do think that there's like a negativity aspect to it too, where if you're always posting negative stuff, then that can be harmful to people too. So I think there's like a balance of like a positive reality. Right. Like, are you being real? Not because we even care about you presenting yourself in a real way, but because people are always watching and measuring. They're always measuring. And so is what I think one practical help, if you are a creator, and when I say creator, I don't mean that you have to have like a lot of followers. I just mean like, you put some stuff out there. If you're a creator, I think always like measuring what you're posting through the lens of is what I'm doing going to lead to somebody measuring themselves up against this in a way that can be harmful.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:30]:
And you can't always avoid that. Like, even the food pic that I put up last night, it's like, does me posting this make somebody feel bad about the fact that they don't cook? Like, I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. But I do think it's always just a good, like, it's. If you're wanting to be helpful and life giving with your content, it's like.
Leslie Johnston [00:34:47]:
You do such a good job at that. I feel like you do. Even when you posted, like about you being pregnant was so you. And so it wasn't like, it was just, it was the excitement. But then it was also like, and Benji needs to stop calling me big Mama and I laughed so hard. Chris and I were together when you posted it and we were like, we love Morgan because I love that she posted that. And it just like makes it real. Like, it's like, I don't know.
Leslie Johnston [00:35:14]:
And not that that has to be everybody's thing. Like, it's, it's real to you. Like, some people do talk super flowery and they're always like, put together and that's your, that's who you are. Like, put that out there. But I think you're right. Viewing the lens of like, if you're a creator, hey, how do I. Is what I'm posting like helping people or hurting people? You know, because you have to know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:37]:
That people are always measuring. And that's funny on the pregnancy thing too. What's funny is I had to make a conscious decision. I had a question to myself, like, I don't have a big following, but I do post stuff regularly. And I had to have this conversation with myself of, like, do I post stuff about pregnancy? Because lots of people will use pregnancy as a way to post stuff and be helpful.
Leslie Johnston [00:35:58]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:59]:
And to be honest, you know, and I know because we're, because we do life together. I have not had like a, a super positive pregnancy experience. Nothing's gone horribly bad.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:08]:
No.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:08]:
But I haven't felt great.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:09]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:10]:
And I had to have this moment where I was like, I don't think I'm gonna talk about this a bunch online because I don't have much to say that's positive about this.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:17]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:18]:
And I want to be careful about what I'm like, widespread saying to people because this might not be helpful to people, like, if it's negative or fear based. And to be honest, I probably screwed our friends over because I've been honest about the fact that I've thrown up a lot and it hasn't been super fun. And it's like, like, yeah, to some degree. It's like, maybe that's honest, maybe it helps people. But also it probably scares my friends for wanting to get pregnant. So it's like, you know, you've got your people you do your life with and you do, you know, you do what you got to do. But it's like on your widespread public platform, is what you're doing being helpful or is it hurting? And do you know yourself well enough to be like, I don't know that I, that this content is like, what I need to be speaking into? Like, I'm not, I'm not the pregnancy person. I'm not going to Be.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:03]:
I don't want to be somebody else. Is that. But I'm not positive enough about it to be like, let me help everybody. You know, I just think it would be discouraging for people. But there's other things that I think would be really fun to. Yeah, yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:18]:
And when you post something, it's like, you're gonna have half the people who love it and half the people hate it. It's like, that's social media. Cola Brandt is a great example. He posted that half the comments are like. Like, thank you for sharing this. It makes me feel so much better. Half of them are like, your kids are going to turn into crazy people because they don't clean up their mess. Like, they.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:37]:
They just got roasted for it. And so I'm like, you can't please both.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:41]:
No.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:42]:
But if you can, try to stay in the middle a little bit. Like, is this helpful? Is it honest? Is it honoring to God? Is it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:49]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:49]:
Whatever. Yeah. Also, it's so interesting, if you're a.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:54]:
Commenter listening to this, stop commenting. Don't. Like, I just. I just don't understand negativity comments. That makes no sense to me.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:06]:
Well, yeah, it's really just.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:07]:
What would you ever have to say besides, like, I'm trying to think if I've ever commented negatively on someone's or something's post, whether it's a product or whatever.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:16]:
I think I've only, like, defended other people online.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:19]:
Okay. Yeah, probably same thing. I was like, well, I think this is.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:21]:
Which is probably so stupid, but it's, like, doing nothing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:24]:
But I just. If you're a commenter and you think, like, my contribution by commenting negatively helps the world. It doesn't.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:32]:
Yeah. I think you always have to go. If this comment were shown, like, up in a room of all my favorite people, would they be, like, proud of me? Or would they be like, oh, that was weird.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:42]:
That was weird and rude and like, what did that do?
Leslie Johnston [00:38:44]:
Yeah, what did it do except make someone feel? Which. That's. The other thing is when we view influencers and people who do have a lot of following, who maybe make their life look perfect because maybe that's part of their job. Like, that's what they do, I think we start to think like, well, your life is so perfect, I'm gonna knock you down a peg. That's what I think commenters are doing. It's like, I'm gonna knock you down because I don't feel like I'm as high as you are. So if I can knock you down Then we're on the same level. And so maybe we need to start realizing those are all people behind those accounts.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:19]:
And with real lives and real problems, we're all struggling with something. We all have joys in life. We all have our pitfalls. And I just think we lose sight of that. That's like actual people behind there. And that the real reason why we're cutting people down is because we feel like they're ahead of us and we need them to get back with us. And it's not true. We're at the same line.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:40]:
Yeah. We want to be at the same level. Yeah, but that's a good point.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:44]:
Yeah. I don't know. Social media is such a crazy thing. It can be so helpful and so good and connect, but it can be such a comparison too. Like, you can even go like, oh, on tick tock. It's like, I'll be scrolling tick tock. And then it's like food and fun things and whatever. And then it's like, this girl's like, super ripped workout plan.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:02]:
And I'm like, man, I gotta. I gotta do that. Like, I gotta get back in the gym. I gotta. Which some things are inspirational and then some things it leans over into, like, like, oh, no, now I'm just like, comparing myself to that person.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:14]:
Yeah. Yeah. I think if you have a couple practical things would be you can control what you follow to an extent. So if you're someone who likes media because you like what you learn or you like that, it's connective, you get to control what you follow and you get to control who you follow. And I understand that it can be offensive when someone discovers that you don't follow them. But there are other ways around that. You can also mute people. You can, you can.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:40]:
There's a lot of people muted.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:42]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:42]:
Actually, like, you need to thing you can do.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:44]:
It has to be. Because there are certain seasons where it's just not helpful to see stuff, you know, Like, I just had to mute, like, people recently that I'm like. And it's. I shouldn't even say that because they. If they listen to this and they wonder, but I don't think that they do. But it's like just someone who's. Whose life causes you jealousy. It doesn't.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:03]:
Causes you help. And so think a. You can control how you use the app. So choose to follow what encourages you and what inspires you. You don't choose to follow what doesn't. And if you're one of those people where you can be made to Feel bad by, like, a random workout video that pops up. Or even if your social media use is leading you into some temptation of sorts. Whether it's jealousy, temptation, lust temptation, any of those kinds of things.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:28]:
You could make a rule for yourself where you're like, I only look at content that I. That from people that I follow. I don't go into, like, the reels category. Or I don't. And again, that would take some self control because it's like. Like, you have to decide. I don't use this part of the app. But yeah, like, there is a way to use it to where you're only seeing what you've decided to see.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:48]:
Or on TikTok, you can hold down and put not interested.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:51]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:51]:
And that will then, like, kind of kick that out of your algorithm.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:54]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:54]:
Which I do a lot less because maybe like a comparison thing and more like certain things, like you said, I feel like, are kind of triggering fear things for me. Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:05]:
I don't want to see this again.
Leslie Johnston [00:42:06]:
Yeah, yeah. It's like someone will talk about a certain problem they have or a thing they're dealing with, and I have a brain that will, like, click into those things and it'll cycle in my mind. And so I have to go, like, not interested. Like, I don't want to hear content like that. So I'm gonna stick with my, like, funny, random video content. But you have that option. And so you can start to curate it a little bit more. We don't have to give up the whole thing.
Leslie Johnston [00:42:28]:
But you can start to, like, give yourself, like, barriers, which is super helpful.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:33]:
Pushing yourself because you know your mind well and. And your mind is really important. This is something that is affecting your mind. So it's part of mental health to figure out how to use this.
Leslie Johnston [00:42:43]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:43]:
Is I'm laughing because I do the whole, like, not interested. Don't like this. Find this offensive. Like, I curate my stuff.
Leslie Johnston [00:42:50]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:50]:
And then my sister Amanda will send me, and she always sends this crap because she knows we hate it. She sends me a video of, like, food becoming an animal and like, this, like, weird metamorphosis thing. It's like, it just. I click on it because I'm like, she sent it to me. And then it immediately throws off my whole, like, it's just the worst. Gross. It's like, tell your friends not to send you stuff that throws off your algorithm. But.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:14]:
And then I would say, like, last. The, like, one of the last things I would say practically is. And this is something we touched on, but part of Your guarding your own heart against comparison, jealousy, things like that is.
Leslie Johnston [00:43:27]:
Is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:29]:
You can feel something, and then you can, like, action step something. So if you feel irked, annoyed, bothered by something, you can feel that and decide how you want to respond to it.
Leslie Johnston [00:43:39]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:40]:
It is another thing to be like, I'm gonna send this to somebody and talk to them about it, or I'm gonna, you know, like, gossip about this at my next girls night or whatever. And it's like, everybody's guilty of that. But as much as you can control, like. Like, I'm gonna see this, I'm gonna let this pass me by. I'm not gonna contribute to the negative social media culture of, like, we're all observing each other and talking about each other. And just, like, I think that's a. Yeah. An adjustment that we can all make.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:07]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:08]:
So.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:09]:
And maybe if you are a content creator, whether you're like, you have a thousand followers or you have a hundred thousand, that if you find yourself, like, on either side of the spectrum of, like, I am a really buttoned up, polished. I make my life look perfect, and I kind of know it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:27]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:28]:
Or you're on the other side of, like, I'm pretty negative. That's where I feel like things have swung, especially in, like, the pregnancy realm. Like, because now that Morgan's pregnant, my algorithm now has, like, gone into, like, a pregnancy thing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:41]:
I'm sorry.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:42]:
No, no, no. It's. I'm always like, oh, God, I remember this. Send this to Morgan. But I feel like we went from everything's perfect, so we're gonna swing so far to, like, oh, here's the real. Everything's the motherhood. Everything's terrible. Your birth's gonna be terrible.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:57]:
I, like, I'm a war hero by. Yes. From all this. And so it can leans super negative. And so I feel like we need to bring a balance. So whether you're on the buttoned up side, maybe, like, open yourself up a little bit and see maybe what happens. And then if you're on the negative side, maybe go like, life doesn't need to all be bad. Let's not, like, fear monger people into issues.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:20]:
So bring RJ in here. Okay, you guys, my nephew is here. Come here. Come here.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:28]:
Party. Oh, rj, come here. What's going on?
Leslie Johnston [00:45:32]:
Can you come sit with me?
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:33]:
Rj, you want to come be a guest on the podcast right here. You can talk into the microphone and tell us something about yourself.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:39]:
Yeah. You guys, this is my nephew, rj. Say hi.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:43]:
Hi.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:43]:
What. What's your Favorite thing you like to do? I don't know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:54]:
Say it.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:55]:
Do you like to go swimming? Yeah. At where? Grandpapa's. Grandpapa.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:00]:
Papa's?
Leslie Johnston [00:46:00]:
Yeah. How old are you?
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:02]:
Yeah. Four years old. What's your favorite thing to watch on tv? Transformers.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:08]:
Transformers.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:08]:
What do you want to be when you grow up?
Leslie Johnston [00:46:10]:
Wait, this is my favorite question because he asked me this the other day, what I'm gonna be when I grow up. Yeah. What do you want to be? Artist. An artist. An artist.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:22]:
That's amazing.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:23]:
Whoa.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:23]:
That's cool.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:25]:
What about. What's your favorite movie? Transformers.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:30]:
I really like the show.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:33]:
Transformers, and I really like the movie. And my dad.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:36]:
See, my dad seen the movie. You haven't seen the movie.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:39]:
So I asked. But my dad sing. So the other day I asked rj, I'm like, what's your favorite movie? And he said, a movie that I've seen or not seen. I didn't know that that was two options.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:50]:
I love that. That's two categories.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:52]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:53]:
What do you want to tell the. The listeners of Am I Doing this right? Do you know what that is? No. It's the podcast that me and Auntie Leslie do together. What do you want to tell the listeners? I don't know. That's okay.
Leslie Johnston [00:47:07]:
You have a piece of advice?
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:08]:
Any advice?
Leslie Johnston [00:47:10]:
No. Maybe, like, have.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:12]:
Have a good summer.
Leslie Johnston [00:47:13]:
Have a good summer.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:14]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:47:15]:
Have a good summer.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:16]:
Wait, what's something you think they should do this summer? What's something fun they should do this summer?
Leslie Johnston [00:47:20]:
In July, I went to fireworks.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:23]:
We should do fireworks. That's fun. I already did it. Oh, you already did it?
Leslie Johnston [00:47:26]:
It's over.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:26]:
Oh, it's done.
Leslie Johnston [00:47:28]:
Hey, what's your. Who's your favorite dog in the family? Do you like. Do you like Bogey or Ryder better? Wow, that's tough. That's not my dog. What about Ryder? Was it Rider?
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:46]:
It wasn't Ryder.
Leslie Johnston [00:47:47]:
Wow. Is Ryder too crazy? Yeah. Yeah, I get it. Well, wow, that was a nice note to end on.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:54]:
Rj, thanks for joining us in the Am I doing this Right Podcast. You added a lot to it.
Leslie Johnston [00:47:59]:
You did.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:00]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:48:01]:
We had your niece on and now my nephew.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:03]:
I know. We're, like, making a kids tour right now.
Leslie Johnston [00:48:05]:
High five.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:06]:
Great job.
Leslie Johnston [00:48:06]:
We're gonna go to the lake this week. This is gonna be so fun.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:11]:
Almanor.
Leslie Johnston [00:48:12]:
That's right. We're going to Almanor. Are you gonna. Are you gonna surf behind the boat? Yeah. You are?
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:18]:
That's crazy. All by myself.
Leslie Johnston [00:48:20]:
Oh, by myself.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:21]:
All by yourself. Do you wanna. Do you wanna close us out. All you have to do is say, thanks for listening. See you next week.
Leslie Johnston [00:48:30]:
Say it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:31]:
You say, thanks for listening. See you next week.
Leslie Johnston [00:48:33]:
Thanks for listening.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:34]:
See you next week.
Leslie Johnston [00:48:36]:
That's right. Thanks, you guys. We will see you next week. See you next week.