Leslie Johnston [00:00:00]:
Hey, everybody. Welcome to Am I Doing this Right Podcast welcome with Morgan and I. We're your hosts and again, we're a part of Thrive Media Network. We said it right this time. I. I listened to our other episode and we butchered it. So.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:15]:
Wait, what did we.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:15]:
Oh, I butchered it. I did too. I was like the podcast of Thrive.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:20]:
Media Inc. Of Thrive Media Incorporated. Yeah, no, we butchered it. But we also have a. We have some great podcasts that are also in our network that we don't give enough credit to. The Change the Odds Pod podcast with Kevin Thompson. Yeah, the Mark Clark podcast. And we just added a new podcast to our Thrive Media Network and that is called the Bible Study.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:39]:
Oh, that's right. And it just started. So you should, you guys should go check that out. I think it's available on all streaming platforms. But the Bible study, it's like an in depth walkthrough of different books of the Bible and right now they're in acts and it's been really good. So. So listening to it. Can I ask you a question?
Leslie Johnston [00:00:54]:
Yeah, sure.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:55]:
What? When you wake up in the morning, how do you assemble your outfits? What's your process?
Leslie Johnston [00:01:00]:
Ooh.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:01]:
Because I feel like you put together great things.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:03]:
Thank you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:04]:
But I would imagine that you didn't just grab the first thing on two different shelves.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:10]:
So I. You. Well, okay. Okay, here's my. This could be an unpopular opinion.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:16]:
Okay.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:16]:
I think closet doors make you a worse dresser because, well, if you have a walk in closet, then obviously you're fine. Yeah, I don't have a walk in closet anymore, which is unfortunate, but closet doors block off your view of all of your different items.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:36]:
Oh, interesting.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:37]:
So, I mean, it's not. I didn't have closet doors when I moved into my house and so I was like, oh, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get closet doors. And then budget cuts. So it was like, no, I'm not gonna closet doors. But I can see all of my items in my closet. So I just like stand back and I look like, okay, I got my shirts over here, my jackets, my dresses, my jeans. It's all in plain sight.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:00]:
So I'm not like pulling over the closet door and like being limited to.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:04]:
Forgetting what you have.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:05]:
Exactly.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:06]:
It's kind of nice too, because then when you're like just in your room hanging out, you can look at your clothes and you can kind of like imagine different things. You're. You're just probably thinking about it more. Cuz you're looking at them more yeah. So then. So. But how did you assemble this today?
Leslie Johnston [00:02:19]:
Well, this I wore on Saturday. So I was like, I'm going to.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:24]:
How did you assemble this?
Leslie Johnston [00:02:25]:
I'm going to rewear this. Well, I. This, I. This is my first dress that's kind of like this. And I think dresses are my new thing. I think I'm going to wear dresses with, like, an oversized jacket. Sometimes I'll see something that someone else is wearing. Oh, actually, actually, what I got the inspiration from was Vertigo.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:47]:
There was, like, one. One of the kids that came to.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:51]:
Vertigo is a middle.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:52]:
Sorry.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:52]:
It's a middle school event that we do. It's also. It's also a condition. But Vertigo in this text is our big, like, 1500 kid middle school thing on our church campus.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:05]:
So you wouldn't think you get fashion advice from a middle schooler, but these days those, Those. Those kids are suited up. They are nice. They like, they dress nice.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:13]:
They really do.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:14]:
There was this girl that came in and she had this. It was literally exactly like this dress, but she had this cute skirt on. She had like a little tank top and something else. And I was like, in a sweater. And I was like, maybe. And she had cute shoes on like this. And I was like, I have this dress. I got this from our friend Madison for, like, $10.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:32]:
So I got this dress and then I was like, actually, I kind of love the vibe of, like, taking something really feminine and girly.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:40]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:40]:
And making it kind of street wear.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:42]:
I love that.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:43]:
So then I put on this leather jacket and my shoes and your kicks? My kicks.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:48]:
A dress and sneakers are really fun.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:51]:
I love it. I love it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:52]:
My current process. And I don't. I don't necessarily think this is good. I'll have, like, one article of clothing that I want to wear that day. Like, usually it's like, what type of pants I want to wear.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:03]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:03]:
And then I'll wake up and I'll like, Pinterest or Instagram and I'll put in that item of clothing and say, like, what are people wearing with this item of clothing? Oh, and then I'll just, like, look at what somebody else is wearing and then try to recreate it with stuff in my closet. But I do feel like I lack some of the basics right now that people are using to put I know together.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:23]:
That's hard. Especially when it's like, why do I not have just, like, a nice white tee?
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:27]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:28]:
Or like, this. Yeah. The really basic stuff.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:30]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:31]:
I think also in my mind, I go, I'm always Trying to like balance an outfit. Like. Yeah, I'm going. Okay. If I'm gonna wear like a blazer.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:39]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:40]:
I'm not gonna be like full business.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:42]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:42]:
Like I'm gonna be like, okay, I'm wearing my like casual jeans and casual shoes to offset it. Or if I'm wearing like a really girly top, then I'll offset with the pants. Or if I'm wearing a really casual like oversized T shirt, then I'm like, okay, my shoes need to be kind of nice.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:59]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:59]:
They're still probably sneakers, but they at least have to be like cleaner.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:02]:
Yeah. Clean.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:03]:
So I feel like I'm always trying to like offset my outfits.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:06]:
Yeah. You know, I feel the same way and I, I feel like for the past five years, outfits have not been girly. Like there's. That has not been.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:14]:
That's not the style.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:15]:
That's not the style.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:16]:
Depending on, depending on who you are.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:18]:
But I love that, I love that that outfits and fashion has been like more oversized. Like you can see if you look at our pictures from the year 2020 to this to to now, a lot.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:30]:
Of skinny jeans and a lot of side parts.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:32]:
Right. But the big thing that has not changed is the huge oversized T shirts. Cuz if you notice it when we first, when I first got here in 2020 when we were dressing, all you can see pictures of you and me, the skinniest of jeans and these big oversized thrifted man's T shirts.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:49]:
Oh yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:49]:
Now some of that stuff is, has been the same, but pants wise, it's like everything's gotten bigger. Everything's been like, I love that oversized. But then now the, the advertigo, that event, the trend that I was seeing that's concerning me that I just don't think I'll ever be able to do is they're not only doing the baggy jeans thing because I love the baggy jeans thing, they're doing the baggy low jeans thing where they're like, like I saw a girl wearing jeans where the top of the jeans was folded over one and unbuttoned to create some kind of like a weird diamond shape on her stomach. And she's wearing like the tightest crop top. And I'm like, well, see, I just can't do this.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:30]:
No, I'll never be able to do this. I can't do this anymore.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:33]:
No longer fashionable.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:35]:
What's like the one fashion thing right now? Because you know, you see someone who's a lot older.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:39]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:40]:
And they're still holding on to like a trend that they had when they were younger. And a lot of times they pull it off, but it's like, that's just your thing. You're like, this is a trend I love and I'm actually never going to let go of. What is that for you?
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:51]:
Okay. In middle school, the Birkenstock clogs.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:57]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:57]:
Were a thing.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:58]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:59]:
With looser fitting jeans and T shirts. That's what all of us wore in middle school for a season. Like it was probably seventh grade. Then obviously it went away. I gave way my Birkenstocks, which I think I, I would have been a different size anyway. So it's not deep. But now that they're back like the. And I don't even know if they're.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:17]:
If they're back. They might have been back like a year ago. And I'm. I'm still just riding the wave, but I don't think I'll ever give that up again. Like, I think I will always have Birkenstocks. I will always wear them. I will always wear them with socks.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:27]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:28]:
I just, I feel the most comfortable, the most myself, the most confident, the most beautiful in my Birkenstock clogs and socks. Good. What's yours?
Leslie Johnston [00:07:36]:
That's cute. I like that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:38]:
I love it with like a loose jean or even like a short.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:41]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:42]:
Like the other day I had. Because. Remember last summer when jorts were a thing?
Leslie Johnston [00:07:46]:
Yeah. I hope that. I don't know if that's coming back or not, but I, I got a.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:49]:
Pair that I loved and I wore them the other day.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:51]:
Did they go to your knees?
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:53]:
Mine went to my knees. What did they.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:56]:
Are yours like half. Half that. I feel like half thighs.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:00]:
Half thigh.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:01]:
And then the ones that are like too like they look like basketball shorts.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:05]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:06]:
Wow. I don't think I've seen.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:08]:
I think they're probably like right above my knee.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:09]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:10]:
But I love them and I wore them with Birkenstocks and socks the other day and I'm like this.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:13]:
You're so ear.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:14]:
I was so earthy. I was so earthy.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:15]:
I actually kind of love that vibe. You're like, oh, I just got out of the farmer's market. I'm gonna go garden.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:19]:
My first strawberries are in my car. I'm just on my bike. Wait, what? What's yours?
Leslie Johnston [00:08:26]:
I thought about this the other day. I will always. I think I'll always do the claw clip. I can't not do the claw clip.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:33]:
What a great addition to life world.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:36]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:37]:
Life world.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:38]:
I just don't think I'll ever give it up. Like, it's the easiest hairstyle when you're like, oh, I just, like, washed my hair and I don't want to have to do it. Or my hair is kind of dirty, but I want to put it up or.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:49]:
Yeah, I just.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:50]:
I love. I love it so much.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:52]:
I know. It's nice.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:53]:
I'll never give it up.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:55]:
It's nice. I really like. For Christmas, you got me this claw clip that has, like. Like, ribbon bows on it, too, which I really like that idea, too, where you can take a claw clip, but you could make it, like, fashion, you know, I kind of like that idea, but I love a claw clip. My hair is really thick, so it's sometimes hard for me to just, like. Like, hold, especially if my hair is not in, like, straight condition. Like, it has to be straight to do it, but I still love doing it when my hair's straight. Yeah, that's a good one.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:21]:
Yeah. Claw clip and then oversized sweatshirts. I don't think I'll ever buy a sweatshirt my size. No, never.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:28]:
Never again.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:29]:
I know. We. We were in a meeting yesterday, and they were like, hey, we're gonna give you guys, like, some sweatshirts. Send us your sizes. And I'm like, extra, extra large.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:38]:
Wait, you go xxl?
Leslie Johnston [00:09:39]:
No, no, no. I go more like large. Extra large. Probably what I want to do is extra large, but I usually do a large.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:45]:
Large. Yeah, I. I've been doing xl. I want to. I want to.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:49]:
I just want to be, like, swimming in it and. Yeah, wear with cute, like, baggy, like, barrel jeans and. And burks.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:57]:
And burks. That's all I want.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:58]:
Yeah. I think I'm gonna put the E brake on in this fashion stage right now and then just never move on to whatever. I want to live in this. I want to live in this style also.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:08]:
Can we talk about this, too? Speaking of things that are happening that are kind of bizarre, we were at this Vertigo middle school night, and we were doing this karaoke room that was, like, where we were serving. And all of the middle schoolers are choosing karaoke songs from our generation.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:27]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:28]:
Like, they are so stuck. Like, every song that you. If you're listening to this in your. Our age, like, if you're in your, like, 30s, 20s and 30s. Every song that you grew up with with, like, becoming Big, that's. Those are the songs that the middle schoolers are listening to and singing wild. Like, what do they sing? California Girls by Katy Perry.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:49]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:50]:
All the old Taylor Swift stuff.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:52]:
Baby by Justin Bieber.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:53]:
Baby by Justin Bieber. Bye, bye, bye.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:56]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:57]:
What else did they do? I was, like, so surprised.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:00]:
Current song.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:01]:
Not one.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:03]:
Not one.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:03]:
Not one single current song.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:05]:
And I think there are gen. Like, that's. Is that Gen Alpha?
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:09]:
Gen Alpha.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:10]:
I think they might be, like, like, hand in hand with millennials.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:14]:
I think they are. They have.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:15]:
They're, like, similar.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:16]:
They're us.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:16]:
They're us.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:17]:
But I'm also like, what does that say about music that, like, no current songs were chosen to do karaoke? Like, they're all. They're going to songs that you and me grew up in the time when those yes. Songs came out.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:30]:
That is really interesting. I know, because I remember being like, oh, they're not gonna know this song. Like, Love Story by Taylor Swift or which Taylor Swift's popular now?
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:37]:
But yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:38]:
Yeah. I was shocked that they sang every word to all of those songs.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:41]:
They just knew all of it.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:42]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:42]:
Or even, like, Uptown Funk. I'm like, yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:45]:
Or like, what? Like, if it. Like, big girls don't cry.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:48]:
Big girl.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:50]:
Fergie.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:51]:
Big girls don't cry. I'm like, y'all. Do y'all even know they know everything? Sings this song.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:56]:
Maybe they're like. They're the generation that's kind of like, hey, we're old souls.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:00]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:00]:
But unfortunately, we are now the old. They're just old souls with us.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:04]:
Yeah. That's my unpopular opinion. I think my unpopular opinion is that Gen Alpha is just copying us.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:12]:
They are.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:12]:
They don't have their own identity, and.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:15]:
We love them for it. Here's the thing that I also am kind of confused about. They're tying their shoelaces through the. Only the back side of their jeans and. And tying it in a bow.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:27]:
It's like those back three.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:28]:
Yes. It's like, those things. It's probably to make, like, an illusion.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:33]:
Why don't they just get the right. Get jeans that fit them? I say I sound like a get off my lawn person.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:37]:
Like, why the old people that were like, why do you have rips in your jeans when we got rips in our jeans?
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:42]:
I will. I'm making a vow to myself to never make a young person feel weird about their fashion. Their fashion?
Leslie Johnston [00:12:50]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:50]:
Because how many times has someone come.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:52]:
Up to you, Unless it's my kid someday being like, I'm not gonna wear any. Like, it's just, this is what I want to wear, and it's like a bikini and.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:00]:
Oh, if it's your kid, you're like, Sorry. Yeah, I control you. No, you're not. Put your burks back on. Yeah, not my kid. And they have holes in their jeans or a shoelace in the back. Three loops. I'm just gonna be like, I'm gonna live and let live.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:13]:
Because so many times people come up to me and they're like, many times. You have so many holes in your jeans. Wow. You got. Holy jeans. Like, I'm like.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:21]:
You're like. No, no. That's funny. I was gonna say something, but I.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:28]:
Forgot what I was gonna say happened to me the other day. That scare you?
Leslie Johnston [00:13:32]:
No.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:32]:
Oh, what do you think? I can get myself in a panic when I. When I, like, have. Something was just about to come out of my mouth and then I can't remember it. And then I'm just like. Like it.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:42]:
I'm like, am I having a brain aneurysm?
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:45]:
Basically, yeah. But then it always comes to me.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:48]:
I had a snowboarding accident one time where I hit my head with the snowboard and, like, I fell. And then it. This sounds really my head. And. And I was bleeding and I had to ride down the rest of the mountain.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:02]:
And I remember those emergency things.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:05]:
I eventually got into the emergency thing, but I had to get out of, like, where I was. And on the way to the hospital, I remember them being like, you might have a concussion. So I'm. I'm quizzing myself on every, like, childhood friend I've had, every. And I remember getting stuck on, like, what was my childhood's best friend's dad's name? Which, to be honest, right now, I don't know. I remember not being able to remember and I was freaking out. I was like, oh, my gosh. I have like a.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:35]:
I have a tbi. And I like, I'm not gonna be okay.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:40]:
I have a concussion.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:41]:
I can't go to sleep tonight because I won't.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:42]:
Yeah, that's so funny.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:44]:
But ever since then, I'm like, no.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:45]:
You'Re like, I'm totally fine now.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:46]:
Also, I don't know. I don't think I could say that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:49]:
Wait, say it. You have to if you don't want to.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:51]:
I'm so sorry if this is offensive and anybody finds if anyone's, like, hurt by this, but I actually think a brain aneurysm would be the best way to go.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:01]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:02]:
Cuz you don't even know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:03]:
It's really quick.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:04]:
It's just like, so to me, that doesn't scare me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:08]:
You're not scared? What did you say the other day? This is A good quote. What did you say the other day?
Leslie Johnston [00:15:13]:
Well, I think you or somebody was talking about, like, oh, my gosh, I. I have such a fear that I'm gonna have, like, a. A brain aneurysm or something and die. And I'm like, I'm not afraid to die. I'm afraid to live. I'm afraid to live with.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:26]:
Live with something.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:28]:
Live with something.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:29]:
Yes. Which I think is genius.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:31]:
Yeah. That's why I'm like, so, you know, I'm not saying to cry. I'm not like, oh, I wanted to crash. But I'm just saying, yes. I'm not afraid of that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:39]:
You're not dying.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:40]:
You die.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:41]:
You're afraid of living with something.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:42]:
I'm afraid of having to live with something that I don't want to live with.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:45]:
Crazy. I love it. Okay. That's really good. Okay. So by the time that people are listening to this, it is the day after Palm Sunday.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:56]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:57]:
I think. Which we were like, we should do, at least for the next two episodes, do some stuff that feels Easter. And hopefully you've had kind of, like a season of. Lots of people do different things to prepare for Easter. They do Lent or they do some kind of, like, a devotional or a prayer thing or whatever to prepare for Easter. And so we just thought, if you're doing something like that, then we'll have our podcast episodes kind of, like, go alongside for the next two. Just to make sure that we get the most out of Easter and celebrate, we do something really cool. And this just reminded me, because I was helping edit it yesterday, but our Good Friday service is something that we just started doing in the past three years at our church.
Leslie Johnston [00:16:42]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:42]:
And one of our pastors who's been on the show, Mark. Mark Clark, he brought this tradition with him from his last church. And basically, like, the service is a mixture of worship songs, a little bit of preaching. But the movie the Passion of the Christ is kind of, like, split up into, like, it's kind of spliced, and it's. It's merged with music, and it's movie. And so you're kind of having this, like, big viewing experience. But I remember the first time that you and I watched it when we first brought it to the church, and I remember thinking, like, wow, I have a feeling that I'm sitting too far forward. I was like, dang it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:17]:
I knew that was gonna happen. Caleb just came in to adjust the camera because I ruined it.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:22]:
But.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:23]:
But one of the. One of the things that I thought was really Cool about that is it was like, an immediate. An immediate mindset of I'm in the Easter experience. I have, like, my mind set on what Jesus did for me. I feel like I'm visually seeing it. Like, it was such a cool thing to get in the headspace of. I'm fully appreciating this. Right.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:46]:
It feels like lots of the holidays on the calendar get good attention and nostalgia, but this one, I feel like, gets skipped over, especially by the world, but even sometimes by Christians.
Leslie Johnston [00:18:02]:
Totally.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:03]:
And it shouldn't, because this is, like, the yearly memorial of sorts and celebration of the greatest thing to ever happen to all of humankind and for us individually. And so today we thought we would do Palm Sunday or, like, Palm Sunday. Like, read a scripture about it, talk for talk. A few, like, kind of points that we liked from this scripture. But before we do that, are there any things that you feel like you've done in years past to prepare you well for Easter that it doesn't have to be like, well, I did this 60 day devotional because, like, we're all past that now.
Leslie Johnston [00:18:38]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:38]:
But any, like, traditions or things you did with your family or whatever that helped you get in that mindset?
Leslie Johnston [00:18:44]:
Well, honestly, the Good Friday service was really, like. I felt, like, kind of life changing. I joked. I was like, I feel like I re. Got saved at a Good Friday service.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:55]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:18:56]:
A couple years ago, because I went. And Easter's. Yeah. Always been a celebration. And you're like, you're so focused on. And these are all good things, but it's like, you're focused on, like, okay, we're gonna go to Easter. We're gonna do, like, our brunch thing, and then we're gonna have a party, and what am I gonna wear? And it's so, like, light and fun and pastel.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:14]:
Yeah, very pastel.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:16]:
And I don't think you can fully appreciate Easter until you fully realize Good. What happened on Good Friday.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:22]:
It's great.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:22]:
And if you're listening and you're like, palm Sunday, Good Friday. What even is this? I don't understand.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:27]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:27]:
Morgan's gonna explain Palm Sunday, because I actually was like, I know Palm Sunday with the palm branches, but I don't really fully like, understand or get what that was about. But Good Friday is the day that Jesus was killed on a cross for us. And so. And he. And he died. So it was like, that's the day that again, this service we walked through, like, you watch and you worship, and you get to see that happen in front of you. And it obviously is so hard to watch because the movie portrays, like, a really good. Like, it's pretty real.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:02]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:20:02]:
But I felt like, oh, I've. I've never. I felt before, but I've never felt, like, the love that Jesus has for us until I had to watch that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:13]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:20:14]:
And I think I. That was the best way to prepare for Easter because we left the end of that Good Friday service, and it leaves on a somber note. It doesn't leave with like, oh, and he rose again. Cause that's Sunday. And so you kind of walk away going, oh, my gosh, imagine what it felt like to be a person or a disciple back then, where you watch Jesus die and you're kind of like, oh, my gosh, he died. And they don't know yet. Like, they know. They had faith that he would do what he said he would do.
Leslie Johnston [00:20:46]:
But you. I mean, if I'm them, I'm like, well, he's kind of a roll the dice at this point.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:50]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:20:51]:
If he's actually going to come back. So I just don't think, to me, that was the best way to prepare for Easter, where I actually look forward to Easter now on, like, oh, no. But look at what he did. Like.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:01]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:01]:
Really, it's about Good Friday.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:02]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:03]:
And it's about that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:04]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:04]:
And then obviously him raising again proves that he was God. And.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:09]:
Yeah. I like the Good Friday, the Good Friday tradition. Because rarely do we ever sit in the gravity of our brokenness and the magnitude of what Jesus did on the cross.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:20]:
We really.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:21]:
We, like, usually skip to resurrection, which I think to us is the equivalent of, like, joy and freedom and celebration. It's why all the pastels exist. Right. It's like, that's. That's a really. That's a really crucial part to it. But I think we do skip over that Good Friday piece where it's like, no, my sin put him on the cross. Our collective sin of all of humankind, even the people that hadn't yet touched ground on planet Earth.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:50]:
He carried all of the sin of humankind on his shoulders and on the cross. And that was the thing that put him there. That was the thing that necessitated that action. Like, for the joy set before him, he endured the cross. Which means that, like, and. And we read those pages and we're like, you know, it's easy when you read a book now. Some books are really descriptive. Like, some fiction books, you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:14]:
It's really descriptive, and you, you know. You know what color the grass is and the sky is and what smells are in the air. And you can fully put yourself there. And the Bible in the literature and the way that it was written, it doesn't read that way. Like, there are certain details, lots of details that are included for the sake of, like, historical accuracy, but there's not tons of. There's not, like, the full sensory experience of, like, it's not written out clearly. What can you see? What can you smell? It's like, there's enough details given to you that you have to use your imagination to go into the text and place your. There.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:46]:
And so I think the. The hard part about that is that sometimes we can read the text and not appreciate the fullness of what actually happened. Like, you skip over all of the suffering that took place because it's words on a page when the reality is it actually happened and it was gruesome and horrible. And I don't know, when you think about it being. That is the greatest amount of human suffering that any human being will ever experience on planet Earth. And God chose to do that for us for the sake of us being forgiven of sin and having freedom to have a future with God in heaven and even here on Earth. And we skip past all of that because we're just not. Unless you make a, like, a consistent effort to appreciate it and to live into that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:34]:
The reality is, like, we should be living in the Good Friday, Easter, you know, pendulum shift daily, weekly. Like, we. But we just. We don't. And so I love that. That Easter comes around once a year where we can be meaningful and intentional and sit with it and wrestle with it. Like, it should produce tears and big emotions. And if you feel like I would challenge you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:59]:
I don't. I won't be careful, because I don't want to say that you have to feel all of those things, but I would challenge you that if you feel like Easter has been, like, you've been distant from feeling the full effects of what God's done for you through the cross during Easter, I would challenge you to find a way to, like, get in that mode.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:16]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:16]:
Because it's important for your faith.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:18]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:18]:
To recognize and rehearse and realize.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:21]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:22]:
Who God is for you in what Jesus did on the cross.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:26]:
That's really good. Oh, yeah. And I don't think you don't have to watch it. Like, even if you watch the movie, like, if you're not in the area and you can't come to, like, a Good Friday service at Bayside, you could even watch the Passion of the Christ, because it does. You're Right. It explains and really shows what actually happened. But I think you kind of watch it with two lenses, like one with, oh, my gosh. Yes, my sin did that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:50]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:50]:
But I don't think you need to sit through the whole thing necessarily with just that lens on. I think you need to switch into, oh, my gosh, look how much God loves us that he would do that for me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:02]:
Yep. It's great.
Leslie Johnston [00:25:03]:
It's. Yeah. I get chills thinking about it. It's so good.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:06]:
So you've got Good Friday, like Leslie just described. Really well. It's. It's the death of Jesus. Easter Sunday, Resurrection day is the resurrection of Jesus. So the death. It would be like, this is. This is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:19]:
This is the wages of sin is death. Which means that when sin enters the world and human beings start to participate in it, it immediately creates distance between God and man. Because God in his perfection, cannot physically live in the existence of sin. He just can't. That would make him not God. It's like seeing, you know, Judge Judy out in the parking lot doing a drug deal. You're like, something about this doesn't. Doesn't make any sense.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:41]:
Right? Like, what's going on here? Same thing with. Same thing with God. It's like, you can't see him associate with evil. It would make him not God. So because of that, though, sin creates a distance, a gap between us and God. God's not happy with that gap because he created us and he loves us. That's why Jesus was sent to earth and he became man. Because the wages of sin is death, death.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:03]:
Like, there has to be punishment for sin. There has to be justice for sin. So someone has to pay the price for that justice. Somebody has to pay bail. Somebody has to do something. God didn't want that to have to be us because he loves us and has mercy for us. So instead, he became us. And then Jesus was.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:20]:
Was the one who took the ultimate punishment for our sin. Dies on the cross. Sin is dealt with. So then the three days later, resurrection is viewed as God is satisfied with the justice that was served against evil. He has received that, and now there's complete freedom and forgiveness for all who just simply believe in Jesus. That's freedom from sin. That's freedom from evil. That's freedom from bondage.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:48]:
It's freedom from all of that stuff. Freedom from your past and from shame. That's Easter Sunday. Now, Palm Sunday is the beginning of that week. And it's the be. And it's. It's a really. It's A stark contrast.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:00]:
The way that Jesus enters during Holy Week and the way that he goes out in his death. Two totally different pictures. Two very humble pictures. And so I wanted to just read John 12, 12, 16. This is Palm Sunday. This is when Jesus enters on his way to Jerusalem. The next day, the great crowd that had come for the festival heard that Jesus was on his way to Jerusalem. They took palm branches, Palm Sunday, and went out to meet him, shouting, hosanna.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:33]:
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Blessed is the King of Israel. Jesus found a young donkey and sat on it. As it is written, do not be afraid, daughter Zion. See, your king is coming. Seated on a donkey's colt. At first, his disciples did not understand all of this. Only after Jesus was glorified did they realize that these things had been written about him and that these things have been done to him.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:59]:
So Palm Sunday is the beginning of Holy Week. It's the lead up to Easter, where we remember his final days, Right. They welcome him with great excitement. They're shouting the word hosanna. This word hosanna means God save us. So all these people are gathered around him. God save us. We recognize that you're God.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:18]:
You're king. And then at the very end of the week, they're the ones that ultimately put him on a cross. Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:28:24]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:24]:
One of the cool things that we liked is. So first of all, that prophecy. Rejoice greatly, daughter Zion. Shout, daughter Jerusalem. See, your king comes to you righteous and victorious, lowly and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey. That's Zechariah 9:9. So it was a prophetic word that was already spoken about Jesus before he ever even entered the picture. People knew this was coming.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:44]:
This was validating that he was who he said he was. But the fact that he came riding in on a donkey is very unlike what we would picture kings to come riding in on. You picture kings to come riding in on big horses and chariots and, like, something that feels regal and royal, majestic. And Jesus didn't come that way. And then you, you know, rewind backwards to his birth when he entered Earth in the first place. And he came in a very different way because it was the same thing people prophesied about him coming. The king Messiah. You expect him to come in this very, like, kingly way where he's got, you know, he's.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:25]:
He's royalty. He's got jewels and, you know, unicorns, swords and lightning and all this stuff.
Leslie Johnston [00:29:33]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:33]:
And then yet he Comes entering into a manger. Now, what's cool about King Jesus is that he is really humble. He's a very humble ruler and leader. It's a part of who he is. It's a very different thing than we experience amongst all of the other leaders on planet Earth, like, through all of time.
Leslie Johnston [00:29:56]:
Oh, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:57]:
Kingdoms and reign and rule has always been associated with, like, money and power and influence and all these things.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:05]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:05]:
And I think that's one of the things that makes Jesus so approachable and makes him worth following is that he's the king who has all of the authority that he needs to rule. He's on his throne, he's in control, and yet he doesn't feel the need to distance himself from you in this, like, power dynamic. He is the kind of king who knows who he is. He's secure in his leadership. He's got all things under control. And yet he chooses to enter into a crowd on a donkey so that he can be with his people. It's like, yeah, sorry to rant, but it's like. It's the same thing as, like, when Jesus was.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:41]:
Was spoken of as Emmanuel, God with us. Right. He wasn't meant to be God away from us or God way above us. He was God with us. And even the way that Mary was able to marry mother of Jesus was able to carry Jesus in her womb as a part of the entry story of God.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:58]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:58]:
It's just different. Like, world religions, they revere these gods that feel very high up and far away. Untouchable, untouchable, perfection. And Jesus is so different. He's perfection, but he's perfection made touchable.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:16]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:17]:
His perfection in a manger, he's perfection on a donkey. He's perfection in a. In a lowly city, letting people touch the fringe of his garments and touching lepers. He's just a very different kind of king. And so, yeah, there's lots that you could unpack about Palm Sunday, but the humility of Jesus and the touchable, like, closeness of him is the thing I think we just kind of wanted to highlight about Palm Sunday.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:42]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:42]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:42]:
I love that. Honestly, I love that Jesus is so countercultural.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:46]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:47]:
From everything. I think that's why I love, like, I just. I love that about him so much. It's like you read. Everything you read is. Yeah. It's exactly the opposite of what all these other kings. I mean, even.
Leslie Johnston [00:32:01]:
Yeah. In our day, like you were saying, it's like, yeah, everybody is so untouchable. They're on this high. But. But People revere that. They're like, oh, my gosh, they're so high above me. They're so powerful. Whatever.
Leslie Johnston [00:32:13]:
But then you watch, like, nine times out of 10, they have a fall.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:16]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:32:17]:
And they're not perfect. And it's even more destructive.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:20]:
Yep.
Leslie Johnston [00:32:21]:
So I think it's funny how we try to, like, like, promote ourselves so much.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:26]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:32:26]:
And we lack humility. When, like, God came down and he was the most humble.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:31]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:32:32]:
It's like, what is that about us that, like, we want to make ourselves this, like, false God?
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:37]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:32:38]:
When God actually did literally the exact opposite.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:41]:
He did the exact opposite. I love. I love that image. It's like. Yeah. I mean. Yeah, you said it. It's like everybody.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:49]:
Everybody who has money, power, and fame, they use the things that they have to create distance between them and other. It's very lonely. It's very isolating. And then therefore, leads to a lot of, like, sin and heartbreak and all kinds of stuff. But. And not everybody follows Jesus. I get that. But the model for being someone in authority, let's say that it, you know, the correct model of being someone in authority comes from Jesus.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:14]:
Then that means humility and being close to people is meant to be a part of our lifestyle. As a believer.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:21]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:21]:
And a lot of us. Us. And I'll. I'll say with even, like, some conviction, some of us. And even, like, church ministry, we don't adopt that lifestyle. Yeah. I love this about your dad. Your dad is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:36]:
Has been a pastor for a long time. He is like, a author, speaker, known in lots of places. He's a guy with a lot of influence, and he will talk to, care for, and be with anybody at all times. He's not some, like, pastor that comes in, speaks, leaves, you know, or goes and, you know, hides somewhere. He is always with people. He loves people. And to me, I think that is, like. That is the quality trait of Jesus, that all people have to have the desire to be with people.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:14]:
Where you're not creating distance between you and people. You are closing the gap between you and people, no matter your authority, no matter your level. Like, that is. That is the quality trait of Jesus that we are meant to have. Anybody in any position in ministry or in marketplace, that's a quality that. That we have to have. And I think the. The challenge that I would give to myself for Palm Sunday is Jesus.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:40]:
Jesus stripped away every obstacle he could to be with people and to get on people's level with them.
Leslie Johnston [00:34:47]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:48]:
And I don't know that I do that as A regular practice with caring for people. You know, like, there's different ways to preach the gospel. You can preach the gospel with your words. You can preach the gospel with action, although you do need to use words to explicitly explain it. But it's like, I think I serve people, but do I really, like, get with people on their level, in the trenches with them and serve them? I don't know if I do that.
Leslie Johnston [00:35:14]:
I think you do that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:15]:
But.
Leslie Johnston [00:35:16]:
But I. I see your point. It's like, we don't always mimic the way that Jesus lived his life.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:24]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:35:24]:
Jesus obvious. And I. I'm. I'm so guilty of this, where I'm like, oh, I've got all these things to do. I've got my job. I've got whatever. And if I don't do these things that I think are super important.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:36]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:35:37]:
Then it's gonna fail.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:38]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:35:39]:
A group of people. But Jesus had the biggest mission when he came down here to save, like, the whole world.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:45]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:35:46]:
But yet he still, like, walked along people and sat with somebody and was with, like, the singular person to help them with their either disease or illness or whatever it was. And he was, like, cared about one single person.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:59]:
One single.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:00]:
When he had, like, the whole world on his shoulders.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:02]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:02]:
So I don't have the whole world.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:04]:
On my shoulders, so I could probably do the wine.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:07]:
Surely I have time. Yes. But it is. It's so convicting. I love that. I also love in the story how. And this is something I never noticed before, but when it talked about how, like, the crowds, what it was saying was, like, the crowds were eager for somebody to come and, like, save them from their struggles.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:28]:
Right.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:28]:
Like, their political struggles. Their. Like, they had an agenda for Jesus. Like, oh, good, he's here. We're gonna celebrate him because he's gonna save us from whatever. Like, probably the political powers of that day and the issues that they had.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:43]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:43]:
But it was like, no. Jesus was coming for something far greater than what they expected of him.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:48]:
So. Good.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:49]:
And we can look at that in our own lives and go, what am I expecting Jesus to do in my life? Like, do I have my list of things that I'm like, okay, God, I got my list for you to work on. And if you just do this, like, that will for me. But I. What I love is Jesus is like, oh, I'm. I'm, like, coming for so much more.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:07]:
Like, that's so. That's so preachable. We come, we. We ask for Jesus's intervention, and we're like, hey, these are my things. This is what I think you're here for. And then we're bummed when our prayers are not answered in the way that we want them to be answered. Or, you know, when the intervention of Jesus doesn't look like what we had planned for it to look like, not realizing that he has something so much bigger and better. He's after, like, a holistic saving of you.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:35]:
Yeah, he's the naturopaths of Jesus.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:40]:
Was a naturopath holistic. But that's a good illustration for it, right? It's like, I think we. We want Jesus to come in and save us from particular instances and situations. Like, rescue me out of this work conflict. Rescue me out of this friend conflict. Rescue me out of this. This financial instability. And it's like, if he's a holistic savior, then he's after your whole person.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:03]:
He's not just after your. Your one inconvenience or your one situation. And. And it might actually not be in your best interest to be rescued from that one thing, because what if going through that one thing is actually a strengthening tool for you?
Leslie Johnston [00:38:16]:
Exactly.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:17]:
To find Jesus more like, it's so good. And so I think that that's so wise. The other thing that's cool is the way that they greet him. Now, granted, you know, this is the beginning of the week. The end of the week ends very differently. But Jesus is coming into town. They've long anticipated his coming. And they've got these palm branches and they're waving them around and they're shouting, hosanna.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:40]:
That means save us. There's like an urgency, an excitement, a celebration. To me, this looks like worship. It's like, stop whatever you're doing. Stop your jobs. Stop your daily tasks. Come out to meet Jesus as he's entering. You know, pick up some palm branches, wave them around in true celebration, and shout, hosanna, save us.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:04]:
Like, save us, God. We've long anticipated your coming. I think that looks like what. What real worship and urgency, expectation for God to move looks like. And I do think in some spaces and in my heart, that's a lost art. Like, the urgency, the wanting, the welcoming of God. Like, hosanna, come save us. And really expecting it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:28]:
And the reality of, like, I'm gonna stop whatever I'm doing to come out to meet Jesus when he comes. You know, do I anticipate or long for the presence of God to.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:39]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:39]:
Intervene in my life or to enter a room, you know, how many rooms we walk in, and we're just like, even like church rooms where we're, you know, we're there because that's the routine.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:49]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:50]:
And yet there's like, a real possibility of God to come in and move and save people. I don't feel that desperation as much anymore. I felt it a lot as a new Christian. Over time, it's worn off, but I wish that it wouldn't because. Yeah, I think that's probably a scheme of. The scheme of the enemy to take us away from the urgency and the desperation of, like, hosanna. Hosanna. You know, blessed is he who comes in the.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:16]:
Like, you know, they want for Jesus to be there. It's probably a scheme of the enemy to take them from that to then just a few chunks later in the story. They're so apathetic towards him, they turn their back on him during, like, that's. That's kind of us.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:31]:
Yeah. We're so flip floppy and.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:34]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:34]:
You've got one emotion. One day and one. You could be like, I'm so. I love Jesus. And I think, like, this is the best thing in my life. And the next day something goes wrong and you're like, he's not even real. You know, it's like we turn on him so quickly.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:48]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:48]:
But that's like a part of. I mean, the cool part is he's still like, through all of that, it's like, God still loves you and still wants to die for you no matter what.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:58]:
Yeah. I think that's the most beautiful part of the Easter story is like, if you. If you want. Especially when you watch, like, a movie, like the Passion of the Christ, and you see, you hate every. Every character in the story.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:11]:
Right?
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:11]:
You're like, you suck.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:12]:
You suck.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:13]:
You suck.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:14]:
I would have been there.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:15]:
That's what we try to say. We try to be like, if I had been there, I would have done this differently. But the reality is we are all of the characters that we hate. Like, I think Mark said in a sermon a couple years ago, he's like, you guys hate Barabbas, but you're Barabbas. And I'm like, oh, that's like. That stings and it sucks. Yeah, I forgot where I was going with that, actually. But you look at the story, you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:39]:
Oh, this is what I was gonna say. You look at that story, you watch the movie, you submerge yourself in it. You hate all the characters that come against Jesus. The reality is we're those characters, and yet still the story ends in a resurrection. Anywhere along the way, God could have been like. Like, These people do not deserve this.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:57]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:58]:
They're shouting, save us now he's on a cross and he's being beaten and scorned like, they don't deserve this. He could have taken it away at any point in time. That's the beauty of the Easter story. It's like, even without your cooperation, even with your, like, rejection of it from time to time, Jesus still endured the cross.
Leslie Johnston [00:42:19]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:19]:
And that's the greatest gift.
Leslie Johnston [00:42:21]:
Yes. It's like he can't even hold that stuff against you. It's like he's already. He's already done it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:26]:
He's already died for it.
Leslie Johnston [00:42:28]:
What I also love about Jesus, humility in all of this, it reminds us that even in our lives, being. Even if you are the most humble person and you serve people and you walk alongside people and you do your absolute best to love people because you love people will still.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:48]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:42:48]:
Disappoint you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:49]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:42:49]:
And it's like we looked at Jesus. Life is perfect. Jesus lived a perfect life, and yet people hated him.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:55]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:42:56]:
So it's like, maybe somebody today is like, man, I do not understand. I'm trying my best and it's never good enough. Or I'm trying. And it's like Jesus feels that he went through the exact same thing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:08]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:43:08]:
And. But it doesn't. That shouldn't make us bitter.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:12]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:43:12]:
And be like, well, then I'm just gonna, you know, live for myself and not care about others. I think a lot of us can do that. But it's like, she's such a good example of, like, when you walk in humility, you just keep going because that is what matters. And he was a great example of that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:27]:
That's so good. That's really good.
Leslie Johnston [00:43:29]:
I have a question. Why do people do Lent? Oh, is that supposed to start on Palm Sunday?
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:36]:
Well, no, it starts a long time before that. So it's like. Which, you know, you and I know a little bit about.
Leslie Johnston [00:43:43]:
Like, I understand. Lent is like, you give up something. Is it just to prepare your heart for Easter?
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:48]:
Yeah. That's what it is. So it's like, it's a 40 day period.
Leslie Johnston [00:43:52]:
Oh, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:53]:
We're behind. Leading up to Easter. It's like prayer, fasting, reflection, that kind of thing. So people typically will choose something to give up.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:01]:
Okay.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:02]:
In reflection for Easter. Gotcha. And it begins on Ash Wednesday. It ends on Holy Saturday, which is the day before Easter. It's. It's observed by lots of different people. Yeah. But, like, they could give up certain foods or habits or whatever to focus on, like, growth and repentance and all that kind of stuff.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:20]:
Yeah, that's what Lent is. It lasts for 40. Which next year we could do something like that for the podcast. It'd be. It's a cool discipline.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:26]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:27]:
People give up all kinds of stuff.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:28]:
I can give up soda one year.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:29]:
But I don't know if my heart.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:31]:
Was in the perfect place.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:32]:
Like, I'm just gonna trim this down. Those are really good, practical things we talked about. So the humility of Jesus. Like, are you. Are you closing the gap between you and people? Are you, like, coming in on a donkey with people to be on their level, to serve them and to love them? Because that's what Jesus did.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:49]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:49]:
What you said. Are you. Are you asking for Jesus to come in and save you from the things on your agenda? Or are you. Are you cool with Jesus accomplishing his agenda, which is for your greater good? That's a gnarly one, because I'm so guilty of that.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:04]:
Oh, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:05]:
The third one is like, are you urgent for God to come in? Like, do you usher in the presence of God? Are you. Are you waiting for him? Are you anticipating him? Or are you ignoring him? And then the last one you said was really good, too. What was the last thing you were talking about? The humility of Jesus.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:19]:
Oh, that. Like, Jesus. Jesus demonstrating humility shows us that. Like, even when we do that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:27]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:27]:
People can still. Like, people still will.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:30]:
Yeah. Yeah. It's like your primary responsibility is obedience.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:33]:
Exactly.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:34]:
You don't have. And if that means that people are not happy with you, that's not necessarily your problem.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:40]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:40]:
If you're being obedient.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:41]:
If you. Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:42]:
Being obedient without being a butthole about it.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:46]:
Yeah. Some people, you may need to take a look in the mirror and be like. Yeah, I can see why people don't like other people. You're like, maybe. Maybe you need to just go, you know what? This happened to Jesus. I think we can just be really hard on ourselves.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:00]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:00]:
Because we all want to be liked.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:02]:
So badly so bad.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:04]:
And it's like, Jesus was the perfect example of humility and likability, and people still hated him.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:11]:
That's so good. Those are great, practical things to think about for Palm Sunday.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:16]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:16]:
Okay. Anything else?
Leslie Johnston [00:46:18]:
No, I think that's great.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:20]:
I feel more prepared.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:21]:
Me, too. And now I know really what Palm Sunday was about. I think there's pastors, kid.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:28]:
There's no. There's lots of angles you can take with Palm Sunday, too.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:32]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:32]:
We just touched on, like, a Few things, but it's so good. I would go. I would recommend. I think a great thing to do between now and Easter, practically, would be to read a gospel from start to finish, because it's the full narrative story of Jesus. And obviously the culmination is in the weekends that are coming up for us.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:49]:
Right.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:50]:
Good Friday and.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:50]:
Yeah, Easter Sunday and go to a Good Friday. If there's a church around you that has a Good Friday service, go to it. It's not just for people who are 80 plus.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:59]:
That's a great point.
Leslie Johnston [00:47:00]:
Go to a Good Friday service was for anybody 70 years old and up. Like, that's. That was the demographic who was there. And I was like, I guess this isn't for me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:08]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:47:08]:
But it. It seriously was so good. And yours might look different. But I think, all in all, that's the best way to celebrate Easter, because you can't celebrate something you don't know why you're celebrating.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:20]:
That's great. Right? That's. That's. That's great. And also remembering that Easter Sunday is probably the busiest day of the year, one of the busiest days of the year for your church. So if you're in a position to jump in and serve in some capacity, you should be serving on Easter Sunday specifically, which I know that I don't know. I don't know if you already serve or what do you. What you guys do, but you should be serving in your local church, especially on Easter Sunday.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:45]:
It'd be very helpful.
Leslie Johnston [00:47:47]:
Yeah. Love that, man. Well, you guys, we'll see you next Monday. Happy Easter Week. Holy Week.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:56]:
Yeah, hopefully we got those dates right. If not, you guys are hearing this a little bit early.
Leslie Johnston [00:48:00]:
I think they are hearing it early.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:01]:
Oh, God. We're not redoing it.
Leslie Johnston [00:48:04]:
We're in the Easter season. Happy Almost Palm Sunday. That's what we'll say. Happy Almost Palm Sunday. And then next week, you can celebrate the week before Easter.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:12]:
It's great.
Leslie Johnston [00:48:13]:
Love it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:14]:
Okay.
Leslie Johnston [00:48:14]:
All right, you guys, we will see you next time on Am I Doing this right?