Morgan May Treuil [00:00:00]:
Welcome back to the Am I Doing this Right Podcast. We are your hosts.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:04]:
We're back.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:04]:
Leslie. Leslie's back. And I'm back. And everyone's back.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:08]:
Everyone's back. And we actually finally have different clothes on. I know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:12]:
That was a long. You know what I realized when we were posting this? Not the same episode, but the same outfit episode. Four times in a row. I did not put a lot of effort into.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:24]:
I put no effort for the day.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:26]:
That we were gonna shoot four episodes.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:29]:
I know. I think that was a day where I was like, you know what? I'm gonna go. Kind of like, no makeup, and I wore, like, the. Just a. Not great outfit.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:37]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:37]:
I think I thought. I forgot we were filming.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:39]:
No, same. I think I did, too.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:41]:
Even when I do remember, I feel like I don't put that much effort in. But it was just the wrong tie.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:46]:
Shirt. No. This looks cute. This was like you just came back from a cruise.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:50]:
Oh, I. Do you like cruises?
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:53]:
No, I've been on maybe one, but I watched a documentary this summer.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:58]:
Oh, about which one?
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:00]:
A girl who disappeared on a cruise.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:02]:
Oh, I thought you were gonna say about the poop cruise.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:04]:
I have not watched that. Have you watched that one?
Leslie Johnston [00:01:06]:
No, but we know someone who was on that cruise, which.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:11]:
That's for people who don't know what that was. It was a cruise that lost power in the middle of the ocean. Right. So they were not able to get home or to land. So they're stranded out and in the middle of the ocean with no power.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:25]:
Which means no flushing toilets, no working water.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:29]:
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:30]:
So then my parents watched it, and they were saying that. That the most alarming part of that documentary wasn't even the fact that they couldn't flush or they had to, like, poop in bags and put them outside of their room because they couldn't use the sewage system. Like, they.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:45]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:45]:
It would have been a disaster is that there was no working air conditioning, so everyone was, like, pulling their mattresses out onto the deck to sleep at night so that they could get some kind of airflow.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:58]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:58]:
They were miserable. I know. Which makes me feel like just the possibility of that happening makes me never want to go on a cruise.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:07]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:07]:
You've been on a cruise.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:08]:
I've been on a couple cruises, and I've never been like, oh, yeah, I really want to pay to go on another cruise.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:13]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:14]:
Like, some have been really fun, and we've gone cool places, but I feel like they half the time take you to really cool places and Then half the time it's like here's just like the other side places that we got to fill in here. Cuz we have to stop somewhere and so I. And they only take you to like the, the heart of a city where it's very touristy and so I feel like there's not enough time to actually go like explore the outskirts.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:40]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:40]:
So. But I mean it's nice I guess. Like your food's all there and you don't have to pack up your stuff every day.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:46]:
But I like the all inclusive vibe of that. Like that's. I. That I like going to an all inclusive resort that's situated somewhere.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:53]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:53]:
Tropical and you don't have to get on a boat but it's just there. I like the idea of having everything you need right in one spot. That feels very restful because you're just not.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:00]:
No, it's. That's not a lot of planning is very restful. You just take what you want for the day. You walk off and you're just.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:06]:
And you're good to explore. That is nice.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:07]:
I like that. And you're never worrying about like transportation or anything like that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:12]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:13]:
So if you're going to like Europe, I actually think probably a cruise may be a good thing to try.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:18]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:19]:
But I want to go on a cruise that's like a cruise that goes to different like spots in the Bahamas because then you're just going to like different islands. Which seems really cool.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:28]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:29]:
Because you don't necessarily have to sleep on an island.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:31]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:31]:
And sleep on the boat.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:32]:
The, the documentary that I watched would not make you and want to go on a cruise because it was a girl who went missing on a cruise on a cruise ship. And was she dead? They still don't know. So you won't watch it. But like the documentary is about this girl who goes on this cruise with her family and everything's totally normal. And then one stop, all of a sudden, right before they stop, they cannot find this girl. She's disappeared after a night out. Like night in on the boat but like out of the room and they can't find her. And then the ship docks and then everybody gets off and then they still can't find her.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:12]:
And, and but then all of a sudden all these different. Let's. They start investigating like where she went, what happened. She was on a cruise with her brother and her parents. And then all of a sudden all of these different random people see her on this island, like have these sightings of her and all like scattered Years apart. And she looks different but consistent with the person every time that they see her. What? And so they basically traced back by different, like, sightings of her that she was with one of the bandmates from the cruise ship and that the belief is that she's alive to this day. And it's all this crazy stuff, like.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:53]:
These different theories run away that she was trafficked.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:56]:
That's what the theory is. The theory is that she was trafficked and then. But now the theory is she's got like a family or something somewhere. Because she like, like, probably had children. And then now she's just like, where she is. But there. Anyways, someone created this website and there's like this unique device that visits the website only on holidays, her birthday. They think that she's out there and she's alive and that she is, like.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:25]:
Following her own disappearance.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:27]:
Yeah, we don't. It's the craziest thing.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:29]:
What a Pick me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:34]:
If that's what happened. It's crazy.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:37]:
If she didn't actually get trafficked and she just went and lived with the man. Guy on an island. Island somewhere and was like, I'm gonna follow my own epitome.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:46]:
So, but. But the theories are all crazy because it's like, what would lead her, like, if she is still alive.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:52]:
Wait, how old is she now?
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:55]:
This was like, back when we were kids, when she disappeared. This was very young. She was a teenager or like a college student.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:03]:
Okay.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:03]:
Okay.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:04]:
So now like an older.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:05]:
But like, still very young.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:06]:
But very young.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:07]:
With her family on the cruise.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:08]:
With her family on the cruise.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:10]:
I need to watch this.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:11]:
You need to watch it. It's not scary to the point where you're like. You're scared that it's gonna happen to you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:14]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:15]:
It does make you question. Like, a cruise is kind of like no man's land. So, like, there's not a lot of like, law or no laws on the cruise policy or like, I don't know. And then. And then everything's about, like, protecting the line. Like, the cruise line, you know, because, like, it's not good business when someone.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:31]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:31]:
Disappears or.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:33]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:34]:
Or gets trafficked. Like, it's not. That doesn't really increase sales.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:37]:
Yeah, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:38]:
Or if you can't go to the bathroom or you slee. So anyways. But it was like a good documentary where you're like, there's no sol. There's no resolution. You're left to be like, okay, what do you think happened based off of what you. It's a cold case. But her Parents to this day are like, she will come home. I believe she's coming home.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:55]:
Oh.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:56]:
Which is so sad.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:57]:
That's really sad. I want to sometime with our friends, do, like, a cold case night. Like, we find an actual cold case and we try to solve it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:08]:
It needs to be one that is far enough removed from our lives to where it could never actually happen to us.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:14]:
Yes. Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:15]:
Because that would freak me out, but yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:16]:
I don't like, brutal. I know. I watched some really long TikTok video the other day of, you know, like, the. The people, the college students, whoever, who got murdered in that house.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:25]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:26]:
Some other state, Colorado or something.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:27]:
Yes. This is like an active, ongoing. Well, I mean, like the trial for the guy or whatever.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:32]:
It happened like a year or two ago, but they're just now doing all the trial stuff. And I watched this video. I don't know why I got on a tangent on it. And it was like his car, like, where it went around and it like, remade, like a model of it and did all this stuff. And I was like, this is so interesting. And then I was scared after. So we can't watch it. Not interested.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:49]:
That one we couldn't do because it involves a guy breaking in and senselessly killing a bunch of girls our age. So that one's like. No, but something else that's like a bank robbery or something.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:59]:
Oh, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:00]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:00]:
Or like a arsenic. Like a fire. We could easily. Happily. I will happily jump in.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:06]:
I don't know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:07]:
Something that's like, start at the fire. Yeah, I feel like we could do that. That'd be awesome.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:11]:
Yeah, I think that'd be fun.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:12]:
So I don't know if our unpopular opinion is that cruises are.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:16]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:17]:
Overrated.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:18]:
I know my actual unpopular opinion. I put this on Instagram, but I didn't know that other people put non parmesan or mozzarella cheese on, like, their pasta. Their spaghetti. They're cold pastas.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:35]:
So.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:36]:
So I was in Canada.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:37]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:37]:
I saw this story and we were talking about pasta and they're like, oh, let me just grade some marble. You know, like the marble cheese, like.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:46]:
The white and yellow one?
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:47]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:47]:
It's like mixed kind of. Just grate some cheese over this cold pasta salad.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:52]:
Oh, my gosh. Like cheddar. Like a yellow.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:55]:
Yes, like a yellow cheese. And I felt like I was. Look, I felt like a crazy person. I was like, wait, what? What? We're putting that on top of the. The pasta salad.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:06]:
Like noodles.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:06]:
They're like, yes, of course. Like, like pasta. You put. You can, like, grate any type of cheese over no pasta. And I was like, like. Like you would put cheddar cheese on top of spaghetti and they're like, yeah, absolutely. And I was like, not all cheese is the same. But I.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:26]:
I put it on the story, and there were more people than I thought that do that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:32]:
Do you. Do you put. Did you. Did you try it?
Leslie Johnston [00:09:36]:
Yes, I tried one little shred of it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:38]:
And what did you think?
Leslie Johnston [00:09:39]:
Salad. Not good because it's cold pasta. Cold pasta.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:44]:
That's a hard sell.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:45]:
A cold cheese on it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:46]:
A cold cheese. A cold yellow cheese on a pasta. You're like, what is going on? Okay, but, like. But okay. I was trying to think of, like, another equivalent to this, because on TikTok right now, the whole, like, Bulldak Bulldog ramen thing is a big deal. It's like a certain. It's a certain brand of ramen that's very spicy, and everyone makes it in this certain way. But one of the ways that they make it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:08]:
This is like, ramen noodles. So think, like, Asian profile here. One of the ways that they make it really good is they put mozzarella cheese in it to make it, like, gooey and like.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:18]:
Like creamy.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:19]:
Like creamy. Yes. Which mozzarella cheese goes with pasta?
Leslie Johnston [00:10:24]:
Yes, but it doesn't go with any.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:25]:
I wouldn't have thought it went with Asian pasta. I tried it, actually. Really, really good. But cheddar cheese on any pasta, I don't know if I can get. There's a.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:36]:
Like, a flavor. Spaghetti comes out with meatballs, and then someone's like, can I grade some fresh cheese? Oh, you might as well throw a slice of American cheese on the top of it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:47]:
That's like a hot dog.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:49]:
I'm glad you. I'm glad you agree. I don't know if, like, other states, like Texas.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:53]:
Well, all the Italians right now that listen to this podcast that we didn't.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:56]:
Run off listen anymore because I offended.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:58]:
Them, but they are all outraged right now.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:01]:
Yeah, they should be outraged. I am too.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:03]:
That is crazy.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:04]:
It was crazy.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:05]:
But haven't you kind of felt like, like, Canada is not, like, a foodie hub. They seem like they're doing things out of necessity, not survival. They're surviving. They're trying to, like, master the colony.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:22]:
I think it depends on, like, the certain area of Canada you go to.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:25]:
Yeah, but.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:27]:
Yeah, I'm not sure if. I guess if you're, like, in a city like in Vancouver or Toronto, maybe it's, like, more foodie culture.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:32]:
Yeah. But.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:33]:
Yeah, like, I wouldn't know, besides, like, poutine. What. What, like, Canada offers, you know, as, like, a food.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:40]:
Have you done Vancouver or.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:43]:
I've. Like, I've never done Vancouver, but I've. We've done a little bit of Toronto.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:47]:
But did you do, like, a food thing? Like, have you. Have you wish that. I think that would be.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:51]:
So I need to. I need to go with some foodies.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:53]:
Like, to get, like. Because they have really good sushi.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:56]:
Apparently they do.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:57]:
Apparently. But this is what Benji says, like, really good sushi. And there's just like, some crazy food spots.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:02]:
Well, I'm over here putting cold cheese on my cold pasta.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:06]:
You're having a different Canadian experience. Different experience. That's crazy. That's a. That's a great unpopular opinion because I would never think. I saw my niece for. Vacate for one of our vacations, and she was like, so do you think anyone's tried the salmon and chick Fil A sauce? And I'm like, no, I don't think.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:24]:
If you've tried it, please let us.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:26]:
Know so we can let more like, I wonder if anyone's tried my unpopular opinion. I'm like, I haven't, and I don't know that people will.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:33]:
I found this lady on TikTok who. She's really sweet. She does. I should find her name, but she does videos, and she's like, I'm gonna. I'm teaching people how to cook who maybe have never been taught how to cook from the perspective of a mom. So she, like, she's so sweet. And she's like, here's how we're gonna make salmon. And she walks like.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:51]:
Like, you're an idiot. Which is perfect because it's like, here's what you do to prep the salmon. And then it's okay if it does this. Like, it's okay if it does that. And then she walks you through the entire thing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:01]:
That's so sweet.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:01]:
And I know how to cook salmon, but I still watched it. I was like, this is amazing. I want to try it. She made, like, a. Like a honey garlic buttery salmon. And I was like, I need to try this.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:15]:
That sounds amazing.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:16]:
I feel like we used to eat salmon all the time.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:18]:
We had a salmon phase at Sweeney. And then you should have been concerned about mercury. Honestly, I know how much we ate salmon, but it was good.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:24]:
It was so good.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:25]:
I don't remember ever having a bad experience. I love. We loved it. I feel like we made only salmon and, like, no other protein. Well, maybe like, a ground beef or we Never did chicken. Brick Chicken.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:35]:
Didn't do chicken.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:36]:
One time we wanted to do chicken wings and we got them from Trader Joe's and they had feathers in them. We were just like. And game over. This is not it.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:45]:
Never forget that. Never plucking out the feathers after you've cooked it is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:49]:
Is horrible.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:50]:
We should just gone to in and out feather feathers.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:52]:
It's like, what step had to have been missed and what other steps could have been missed? If this step.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:59]:
That should be cheaper to buy that chicken. Because they're doing. Yes, but also not doing it. They're not doing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:05]:
They think that I want to, like, know this was from an actual chicken. I don't.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:10]:
I know. I don't ever want to see. Yeah, I want to eat meat knowing. Yeah, I'm sure vegetarians are like, But I want to eat meat not knowing that it came from an animal.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:20]:
100. I want to see no parts, no faces, no even, like, just no sketchy, like, parts. No sketchy. It should all look like it could be in my, like, playhouse as a kid. Like, it should look that picture.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:35]:
It should be plastic looking.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:36]:
It should be plastic looking. But I still want it to have come from an animal. I just don't want to know about the animal.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:41]:
Are there certain animals? You're like, oh, I can't eat that. Well, you're not like, a huge animal. Like, to me, I don't think I. I just can't.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:49]:
Like, because of grossness or because of like, you love the animal.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:53]:
Well, for me it would be love of animal. Like, I don't. I can't, like, I just can't stomach lamb because I'm like, why call it a land to call it like, well, that's the animal.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:04]:
But like, lamb versus yeah. Why don't they call it. Are lamb and sheep the same thing?
Leslie Johnston [00:15:10]:
I think so. Isn't that what a little lamb is? A sheep?
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:14]:
Oh, I don't know.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:15]:
Hold on.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:15]:
We have to get to the bottom. Where'd my phone go? I'm not looking in the Bible. I was like, I'm pulling out my phone.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:22]:
Yes, a lamb is a baby sheep.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:24]:
Is a lamb the same thing as a sheep? A lamb is the offspring of a sheep. So a sheep is the adult. A lamb is the baby.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:32]:
You had me second guessing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:34]:
Wait, so why do they say, I don't know?
Leslie Johnston [00:15:36]:
Because it's not like, oh, let's eat.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:38]:
The baby calf or like, well, they do veal. Veal is baby is cast. I thought a veal was veal is the baby Calf, which. The meat tastes different.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:47]:
Eat that. Veal just sounds weird, so I wouldn't have eaten that anyways. I also can't eat, like deer.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:53]:
Yeah, I can. Only you can.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:54]:
But you grew up in it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:55]:
I grew up in it. I saw a calf get born at my parents.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:00]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:01]:
It was actually really cool because.
Leslie Johnston [00:16:04]:
Did it freak you out?
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:05]:
This actually kind of. This actually. Okay. This was. This was a summer. Okay. If you made it this far. One of the things that we wanted.
Leslie Johnston [00:16:11]:
To talk about today, and I literally saw each other for the first time today in over a month.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:14]:
I know this is. You're catching our catch up right now, which will continue over the course of the next 48 hours and probably won't be finished.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:21]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:21]:
But it was actually really sweet and kind of a. A spiritual lesson, too. So my parents are in cattle, and at some point I think it could be really fun to have them come on and talk about their experience because there's so many little nods to the world and God and creation.
Leslie Johnston [00:16:40]:
If you do anything with nature, I feel like you just get to see it all.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:44]:
You get to see all of it. So they're doing cattle. My dad's growing crops now. Like, he's. He's producing his own hay and then selling it, which is really cool. So there's all kinds of stuff that they're doing. And. And it's cool because he's taught himself how to do all of it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:58]:
But this was the first. All the cows we've had, we've brought in as they were, with already a baby on the ground. So this is the first time that they're actually seeing, like a. A generation of calves be birthed. That they were a part of the process. Like, they bought the bull.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:18]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:19]:
The bull impregnates the cow. Babies are born. So it's like it. They were especially invested in this part of the journey. And cows carry a lot of babies, so the turnover is more quick than like a human. But a lot of the cows are pregnant right now. And so what we were doing is every day we would get up and we would drive around and we would just, like, be on calf watch to see if any of them had given birth. And there were.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:41]:
There are a few warning signs that you look for on the cows to know if they're close to giving birth. And there were a few ones that, like, looked really close. And one in particular, we felt like it could be any day. And so for four days we are, like, monitoring this one cow and driving around and watching every day to see if it's given birth. And every day it was, like, so elusive. Like, nothing would change. It would get bigger or it would get like they're like milk bags fill up, or like their utters fill up when they're, like, about to give birth so that they can be prepared to feed the baby. All the signs were like, this cow is about to be born.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:16]:
Then the last night that I'm there, the last night I was like, let's go out just one more time and see if that cow had the baby. And because we've been watching her for all week long, basically, and we get out and we look at her and she still hasn't given birth. And then we drive, like, just a little bit to the right, and there is a cow that looks, like, totally not pregnant. About as, like, thin as any other cow. No warning signs, like udders, not really swollen. Like, nothing about this cow looks like it's about to give birth, and yet it's giving birth right now. Like, right now we're watching it give birth, and we got to watch the whole process of this cow give birth. And it was so unexpected.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:57]:
We weren't even watching it. We weren't even looking at it, and yet it was still happening. And we got to, like, witness it and experience it. The last night that I was there, which is really special. And there's all these really cool things about, like, what the cow does when the baby's on the ground. Sorry, there's a lot of cow content. But the cow, once it has the baby, fully cleans the baby off. And you can't interrupt that process, or else the cow can become, like, detached to the baby.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:25]:
So he cleans, she cleans the baby off, and then they just moo for, like, 20 straight minutes. And you think maybe they're in pain because they just gave birth. They're not in pain. They move because they are establishing familiarity with their voice. And their baby calves, they want the baby calf to always know what their voice sounds like.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:45]:
So.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:45]:
So that if they wander off or whatever, they can always find their way back home or back to the cow. So they just spend all this time, like, talking to each other. Anyways, it was really fun.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:54]:
Did the baby calf make noise that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:55]:
Not that I heard. I don't think it knows how it, like, it.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:59]:
It.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:59]:
It's up and walking in a very short amount of time.
Leslie Johnston [00:20:02]:
Oh, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:02]:
Like, almost immediately, basically. It was so special. But the actual, like, spiritual lesson that I thought was so cool is I think there are things that you're watching and you're waiting for God to birth and do something. And you tend to become obsessive over those things. Like it's the. It's the marriage thing, or it's this like, one job promotion, or it's this, like you feel loneliness in your friend circles or whatever. There's things that you are obsessively watching and waiting to have happen. And then over here, like, outside of your vision and outside of your obsession, there are things that God is birthing and doing that are just as beautiful for you, but you're not paying any attention to those things because they're not like, in the object of your focus.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:46]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:46]:
And so it was kind of a lesson of just like, I don't know, I. I went. I went away from that and was like, man, I wonder what else is happening that's beautiful that I'm not looking at.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:56]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:57]:
And it brought up this whole, I don't know, like, series of, like, thoughts and blessings and just stuff that I. I've been neglecting to be grateful for because I just haven't been fixated or focused on it. And so it kind of reminded me, like, there's like a. There's a you perspective in what you're trained on, and then there's a God perspective and what's like, bigger and what's happening around you. And I think it would be really beneficial for us as we go into the fall, to be like, I'm gonna take a second away from my train of thought and then go into like, what's God looking at and what's he doing and what are all the things that he's accomplishing? And I wonder if we would have less anxiety, more gratitude, feel more fulfilled if we were less in our own perspective and lane of thinking and then took on more of God's.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:46]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:46]:
I think we're missing. I. I feel like I'm missing stuff that God is doing because I have less of a God. Like less of a God mind, less of a God perspective. I spend less time trying to know God's mind and more time. More time trying to, like, settle into my own.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:00]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:00]:
And I don't think it's doing me as good.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:03]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:04]:
So anyways, I love that.
Leslie Johnston [00:22:05]:
Cause you're right. It's like you. There's so much that God is doing in your life sometimes, but it's. If it's not the one thing that you currently want, you're kind of like, well, I want this, like, help, this scenario. Or like, maybe you're struggling with Something. And you're like, well, I want God to heal this, but he's healing all these other things in your life.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:25]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:22:25]:
And maybe that will come.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:27]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:22:28]:
But maybe it's not that time right now.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:29]:
Yes. That's. Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:22:31]:
That's so interesting.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:32]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:22:32]:
I feel like this past year has been that for me where my focus has been kind of on one area of my life and God's provided in so many other areas, like even financially and with the house and all of this stuff. And I almost had to stop and be like, okay, I need to like widen my perspective. Like, I need to watch in my life for so many areas that God is doing stuff. Cause I don't want to miss it. Like, I don't want to just get through because I always am onto the next thing. I just think we'll never be satisfied here on earth. So it's like whatever is the thing that you want, it's never going to be enough.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:09]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:23:09]:
Like, no matter what it is, whether it's marriage or kids or whatever, like those things can be so good, but it will never fully satisfy you. So we should be watching for the way that God is doing so many things when we're not paying attention to them.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:24]:
There's a Psalm, it's Psalm 139 and it's David. It's like one the well known psalms. So everybody listening would know it. And then, and then you and me have probably heard it in church a whole bunch. But it's David basically being like God, you know all of my thoughts and you know when I rise and you know all my motivations and yeah, you search me and you've known me. You know when I sit down, when I rise up, you discern my thoughts from afar. You search up my path. Am I lying down? You're acquainted in all of my ways.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:51]:
Even before a word's on my tongue. Behold, oh Lord, you know it all together. You hem me in behind and before, and lay your hand upon me. Such knowledge is too wonderful for me. It is high. I cannot attain it. And it's like, I love the sentiment because it's beautiful to know that God knows us so well.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:06]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:06]:
But then at the same time, the thing that struck me when I was reading this other day is like, it's very me. God knows me. God's very like, acquainted with me. He's. He knows all of my thoughts, all of my ways. And I think sometimes I get stopped up on making sure that God knows me really well. I want to be known. I think all of humankind is on a quest for being known for exactly who they are and accepted.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:32]:
And that's that underneath that quest is actually this. This fulfillment in God that they don't understand is in God. So they try to look for it and we try to look for it in all these other places. But later in the, in the, in the, in the chapter, David actually switches gears and he focuses less on. On God knowing his and more on trying to figure out what God's thoughts are like.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:56]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:56]:
So in verse 17, how precious to me are your thoughts. Oh God, how vast is the sum of them. If I could count them, they are more than the sand. I awake and I am still with you. And it, it's like a total thought transition to like, I'm. I'm less talking about how much God knows me, which is really good and special. And now I'm like, I want one of the goals of my life to be knowing God's thoughts.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:19]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:20]:
Because being known is really special. But to know God and to put on God vision, like in God ears and God perspective, that's where like, the real fulfillment comes. Because you're putting on the Creator's mindset rather than like creation mindset. This is so limited. We're very limited in our understanding. And it's special to be known in that. Like, that God understands our longings and our desires. But it's the better way to go up and be like, no, I wanna.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:52]:
I wanna know what God knows. I wanna see what God sees. I don't wanna just see a life that has all these, like, holes that I am aware of and I'm trying to fix. I want to like, zoom up and be like, get the full picture. I want to see the things that God's planting and doing that I'm unaware of. Because that's where the fulfillment comes in.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:09]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:10]:
Is a different perspective.
Leslie Johnston [00:26:12]:
That's really interesting. I was thinking this was maybe a couple weeks ago and I was down south visiting Michael and we were walking around and talking and I had listened to this on like a podcast or a sermon or something. Maybe it's even just a video on TikTok or Instagram. But they talked about how, like, our whole life here on earth is actually meant so that we can be in a relationship with God.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:37]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:26:38]:
And that, like, we a lot of times get caught up in. Okay, well, my life is about doing things for God, obviously.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:46]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:26:46]:
There is a part of that where it's like, faith without works is dead. Like, there is a part of that. Or we Think, like, my sole reason is to just. Which, again, I'm not saying this is not a part of the Christian faith, but a part of it is going, okay, I need to reach as many people, bring them to Jesus, like, help them to, you know, get saved.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:06]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:27:07]:
But the main thing is, like, all of those things come when you have a relationship with God, and that your whole life is not about what you do for God, but it's having a relationship with Him. It's why he created you. Like, God didn't have to create the world. He didn't have to create people. He didn't have to create you, but he did because he's like, I actually long for relationship with you. Just like a parent has a baby and they want a relationship with that baby. And so I just think it's. I've been thinking about that recently.
Leslie Johnston [00:27:37]:
Like, how do I get out of the mode of living in this? Like, okay, it's my performance, like, what I do and how I, like, interact with the world and what my life plan looks like. And I'm like, okay, what does it look like? If every day I'm trying to go, okay, how do I relate to God today? Like, how do I have a relationship that's further and deeper and better with Him? And if that's the main goal in life, then all those other things are wrapped up into it, you know, like teaching and preaching all those things. Like, that's all wrapped up into it. But, yeah, it's just interesting.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:18]:
It's weird because it feels like the flip of what we know to do. Because I think most things in the world work where if you put in enough work with certain people or with a certain position with a certain company, then you get closer to the center, right?
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:35]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:35]:
The more faithful you are in your relationship, the more trust is built in your relationship, the more aspects of a person's heart you're able to know because you've been faithful, right?
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:46]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:46]:
And then same thing for, you know, a new company that you're working at. The more hard working and on time and, you know, like, invested you are with the company. The more that you get brought into the center of the company, the more that you have trust with your bosses, the higher you go, right?
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:03]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:04]:
It's like most things in the world work that way. A credit line, Right. The more on time you are with your bills, the higher that your credit goes. And so I think that we apply that same understanding to God. We think that there's the faith without works. Truth is true. Faith without Works is dead. Truth is true.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:22]:
But we get ourselves into trouble when we think that. Like it's the inverse order. So we, we think it works the same way as the world. With God I need to figure out what my contribution is. Because if I have no contribution, I have no place with God. And that's actually the inverse of how it works. Yes, it's the opposite. It's that your chief and I love that you said that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:44]:
Because we're reluctant to say that. It. I think it seems too simple.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:47]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:48]:
That the object, our focus here on earth actually is to know God.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:52]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:53]:
To enjoy him and to be in relationship with him.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:55]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:56]:
Everything else comes secondary to that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:58]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:58]:
But that feels lazy to us.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:00]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:01]:
And I think it also feels like it lacks an equation. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh yeah. To know God.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:06]:
Cuz we all want to earn our salvation.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:08]:
What does that mean? How do I do that? Like, how do I do that in a way where I can be so sure? Yesterday Mark was preaching and he was talking is the second half of Ephesians and it was talking about faith. And he said that he had been to a conference before where someone, one of the speakers described faith as. It's this chair that you sit on and you know it's not going to break. That was like the way that the first speaker described it, which I think is really beautiful. And then the second speaker said it's not just sitting on the chair and believing that the chair is sturdy enough to hold you. It's that you love the chair and that you like treasure the chair that's holding you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:47]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:47]:
And I'm like, oh, that's a really different perspective. And yeah, it, it, I hate to say that it feels confusing, but to my heart it feels way less step by step equation to be like your chief objective here on earth is to love and treasure God. I don't. Yeah, but you're telling me that that happens and that should exist not in separation from my works, but that, that is like the starting line and then my works flow from that. That just feels really.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:19]:
I think the works don't feel like works when you are putting your effort into your relationship with God. Because it's like then the overflow is happening. And I don't think it feels as like to me, I get convicted sometimes because I am not the person that's gonna stop a random person on the street and be like, do you know where you're gonna end up if you die today? Like, that's just not my. You Know, natural bent. But when I'm spending more time with God and when I'm, like, actually, like, treasuring my relationship with him, it's so much easier for me to talk to people about God because I'm like, I want them to feel what I'm feeling. And it's so much more natural. Instead of going, okay, who am I gonna bring to Christ? Who am I gonna put back on the right path? Like, all this stuff, or how much work am I gonna do for the church or for whatever? And it's like, no, when I. When I.
Leslie Johnston [00:32:12]:
When that happens first, then I feel like those things are more effortless. Yeah, it's gonna feel like a lot of effort if there's no relationship and it's just all the dude, like.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:22]:
Cause it's just a task list with no. No person and no objective behind it.
Leslie Johnston [00:32:27]:
But it feels like in our world, you're right. It feels, like, lazy and it feels not selfish, but in a way, it almost does. Like, the other day, we were up in Canada, and there's this, like, beautiful, like, spa that you can go to. Not like you get. You can get massages and stuff, but it's more like a day pass where you can get. Go to this day spa, and it's called the Veta Spa. It is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:49]:
Sounds fancy.
Leslie Johnston [00:32:50]:
The most beautiful place ever. It was based off, like, somewhere in Switzerland or something. So, like, all of the angles of everything, it's like. Everything's like black and light wood, and it's gorgeous. There's, like, all these plunge pools and saunas and whatever. And we sat in this one room where you can kind of just, like, see the forest. And it's like. I mean, it's like the most beautiful spot.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:15]:
So I was sitting there, and you can't bring your phone. You can't bring anything in. So it's just you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:21]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:21]:
And so I was sitting there, and I was, like, laying there, like, just watching outside. And it's so funny how, like, even. Just, like, the trees, like, rustling back and forth and just watching how beautiful, like, nature is. I was like, I can't believe that God, like, made all of this for, like, our enjoyment and just to, like, present, like, how beautiful, like, he is and how much he cares about us. And I was sitting there and it was just like, oh, my gosh. Like, I am so stuck in my own little world that, like, I don't even stop to, like, smell the roses. Like, I don't even stop to, like, look and be like, oh, God gave us all this all of this to enjoy, all of this to reflect who he is. And it's like, I'm so busy.
Leslie Johnston [00:34:09]:
Like, okay, God, here's my list of things that I want, or here's my list of fears, or here's my stuff I'm doing all the time for you. That it's like, oh, I'm missing the part that's the, like, relational aspect and the part where it's like, I don't have to bring anything. Like, I went to this spot, I couldn't bring anything. Like, I couldn't bring my phone. Nothing. And it's like there was nothing I could do. There was nothing I could, like, I couldn't even bring, like my Bible in to actually be like, okay, well, I'm gonna sit here and I'm gonna read. Yeah, it was like, no, I just want you to, like, sit there and relax and enjoy this.
Leslie Johnston [00:34:41]:
Because it's like you can let God love you in a way. Like, you can let him, like, let you relax and let you. I don't know, it's just very interesting.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:49]:
That's kind of a mind blowing illustration for me. I wasn't even there. But the way you describe it is, is kind of. It's really beautiful. That is like a weird. That's a weird hit home for me because I do feel like I struggle with the idea of being loved just for being versus being loved for doing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:10]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:10]:
And that is kind of like a prime example of, okay, what if you had an appointment with God to sit and spend time with him? And even all the things that you would typically bring to do that, your Bible or your prayer list or your devotionals or whatever. Not that those things are bad, but you couldn't bring any of those things. So you're literally meant to sit and to enjoy. It almost feels like you probably had a detox period of like, how do I actually get to a spot where I can enjoy? And then to put together that thought of, like, all of this was put here just so I could enjoy it, not because I have to do anything to it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:48]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:48]:
That's crazy, right? Because you constantly are assessing, like, what's my role in this? To be able to contribute. I wonder if that's the way, if you're looking for like a step, like, if that's the way to know and love the Lord. Are you putting yourself in positions where you get to, like, just receive from him and sit with him? Or are you always bringing in something that you could be doing?
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:12]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:14]:
Because then if you're always Bringing in a task to be doing, even if it's doing your devotionals in this one particular way.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:21]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:21]:
Then are you always associating time with him with like a little bit of effort that you're bringing to the table?
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:27]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:27]:
That's crazy. So what did you do the whole time you just sat there and you thought, I can't even imagine.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:34]:
Well, there was like these cool kind of like saunas you'd go into. And then Christy and Joey were there too. So we sometimes would like talk. But a lot of the areas were quiet areas. Like you couldn't talk at all?
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:44]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:44]:
Even Christy, like, whispered to Joey and this lady came over, she's like, no talking. But. Well, it was funny because the first part, it's a detox. Like you feel like you're detoxing. Because I'm like, oh, I have nothing to do. Like, I'm literally just sitting here.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:58]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:59]:
And at first it's like uncomfortable because you're like, okay, I just. I don't want my mind to race or I don't want whatever. But I was like, okay, I'm just gonna enjoy it. And so then I started. I started praying. I was like, okay. But I. I just felt in the moment like I don't really want to spend this time necessarily praying for myself because I do that all the time.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:19]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:19]:
So I was like, okay, I have like five hours here. I have nothing to do, so there's no rush. And so I. I'm not trying to like toot my own horn here, but I like prayed for all of our friends and I literally thought of every single person. Didn't have time for you. We're just kidding.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:37]:
You were like, right at the bottom of the five hours and I just didn't have any more time.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:42]:
But it was funny. Cause I felt like I sat there and this makes me sound so, like, it's not. Woohoo. Y. But I was like, I need the Holy Spirit to help me pray for these people. Cause I was like, I know them. But like, I wanna know what you know, God. And I wanna pray for the stuff that you want for them.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:01]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:01]:
Not just what I think is best for them.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:03]:
No, exactly. Cause we can easily start to be like, well, I'm praying for this person and this.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:07]:
I've diagnosed this.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:08]:
I've diagnosed this and that. No, no, it wasn't. It was like, no, God, I need you to give me like a straight line into like the Holy Spirit of like, what they need. And so it was really cool. I felt like for each person, there was, like, something that was highlighted that I was like, oh, I need to pray for this. And I was like, well, if something ever comes up where they. I was like, who knows? Maybe I was off on all these things, but maybe not. And so it was just a really cool time where I was like, it was relaxing.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:38]:
Obviously you're at a spa, but yeah, it felt like great time with God that I have not had in, like, months.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:44]:
So cool.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:45]:
So this is. If you need to book a spa day, do it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:48]:
This is your sign to book a really expensive spa. Swedish inspired spa in the middle of Canada. It reminds. This is. It's funny how we didn't talk about it. We just said today we were going to talk about what God taught us over the summer. Some, like, lessons that we learned. And it's funny how they go really well together.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:04]:
But I. I felt this summer a little at the mercy of my energy level because there's just not a lot to do to. I have detoxed from a lot of substances that I used to partake in. Like, you can't really.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:21]:
Sorry, let me be very clear.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:23]:
I'm not talking about drugstores. Like, caffeine intake is limited. You're not allowed to take a lot of painkillers. I didn't realize how much I relied on painkillers to, like, cure every discomfort. A lot of headaches, and I feel like I have allergies and then my stomach's always messed up. I feel like. So I take a lot of medicine. Even something like Pepto Bismol I haven't taken in however many months since I've been pregnant.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:49]:
Or like, Advil. You can't take Advil. I've been really sparing with Tylenol. It's just like, been kind of a. A body detox. And I wouldn't say that I felt better because of that detox. In fact, I actually think I felt sorry. I felt worse because I'm in more pain.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:07]:
But it has been this cool, cool time to, like, sit in the discomfort of some things where it's like, okay, you have a headache. I'm not just gonna, like, do everything to, like, stop the headache. I'm just gonna have to figure out how to find some rest in the headache, which has been a cool. Not like the headache is major suffering, but it does remind me of seasons where there have been, like, larger amounts of suffering and you can't just stop the suffering. So you got to figure out how to find little moments of reprieve in the Suffering. There's, like, some. Some stuff there. But I've also had to take a lot of naps and I've had to sleep a lot, and I've had to sleep later, and I've had to go to bed earlier.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:43]:
Like, I just. I have felt physically less productive in the past, you know, five to six months than I've ever felt in my whole life. And part of that you would say, oh, that's awesome, because you're growing a human being and that's exhausting, so you should be doing those things. It hasn't felt to me. I haven't felt that that's a good excuse because I think I'm just hard on myself, but because I do feel a little less motivated right now towards, like, physical things or even sometimes stuff with time or, like, I used to be kind of like a goer. Like, I want to initiate and do stuff, and I don't feel like that right now. I feel very tired and lethargic. But there's a spot in Deuteronomy that is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:25]:
That talks a lot about what we've basically talked about today. The idea of sitting with God and enjoying his presence and being loved not for what you do, but because of who you are. And it's Deuteronomy. So it's before Jesus ever came onto the physical scene. This is almost like an explanation for why God chose the Israelites back in Deuteronomy. The Lord did not set his affection on you, the nation of Israel, and choose you because you were more numerous than other people, for you were the fewest of all the nations around you. But it was because the Lord loved you and kept the oath that he swore to your ancestors that he brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery. And their story didn't just end with redemption from slavery.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:11]:
He redeemed them from slavery. And then it was actually through the nation of Israel that he would bring them to the Promised Land. And they were brought to the promised land so that they could become larger, so they could become stronger, so that eventually, through that nation, Jesus would enter the picture. That was why they were who they were. It's why God brought them. It's why God kept them. It's why he preserved them, because Jesus would come through them. That was why they were a blessing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:35]:
But it's encouraging to know, like, oh, you weren't picked because you were the strongest.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:39]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:39]:
You weren't picked because you were the biggest. You weren't loved because you offered the most in terms of talent or skill set or even ideas. You were picked because you were loved and because God promised himself to you. And that's true for every single one of us, regardless of where you sit and what you feel about your own work ethic or your own accomplishments or where you're at in terms of your dreams.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:04]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:04]:
Or your purposes. You weren't picked or chosen to be loved by God because of something that you did or because of something that you offered to the kingdom. You know, like.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:13]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:13]:
It's funny, when I was doing high school ministry, we used to say this phrase that now I'm thinking about. It is actually very harmful. We used to say, man, if that one kid, it was usually like the football star or like the super popular party girl or whatever. We used to say if that one kid came to faith, it would change the whole thing. Almost like the kingdom of God needed that one kid to get saved in order for the rest of the community to get saved. Because they were the best, they're the most influential. And now that I'm thinking about it, that's like the most anti gospel thing that we ever thought. I understand what we were saying.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:46]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:46]:
But actually it's like, no, weren't picked to be loved because you were the best or the most popular, the most influential, the most hardworking, the greatest ideas because you could run the fastest or grow the most. It was never because of any of that. It was just because God chose to love you. And I think part of the Christian experience is learning to sit comfortably in that very uncomfortable truth that your job here is to know God. It's a very uncomfortable like. And sorry, I'm not not letting you off the hook for like the Great Commission or for all the works. Like, I know that there's stuff associated with it, but your chief objective is to know God. And you're meant to learn how to wrestle with the fact that that actually is a little bit more vague and obscure than you probably wanted it to be.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:30]:
It's not as much of a math equation as you probably feel comfortable with. And that God loves you not because of what you do, but because of the fact that he chose to love you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:39]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:40]:
And that probably feels really uncomfortable too because it involves a lot of you sitting still in a spa by yourself with only the nature to look at and only your receiving abilities are on. You can't bring anything else into it.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:55]:
Which is so countercultural because everything you're ever picked for is because you are the best at it. Yeah, like you don't get a job because they're like, well, we just love you. No, you get a job because you're qualified.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:08]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:08]:
And you get picked, like, the person who wants to marry you. They pick you because they like you more than everybody else and they see qualities in you that they.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:17]:
Everything is like, they see marryable qualities in you. Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:21]:
They pick you because you're the best person they know, and you kind of.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:25]:
Have a resume whether you want to or not.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:27]:
Yeah. And it's like everything in life. So it's like, don't be hard on yourself that it's hard to sit with God and not feel like, oh, I have to bring something.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:38]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:38]:
Because that's how life is. Like, everything is. You bring something to the table. And with God, God's like, the only thing that I need you to bring is you. And I don't. Actually. Sometimes I think we even bring our, like, Bible reading or quiet times to almost, like, control God. Like, in a way, and not always, but I'm saying sometimes I think at least maybe for myself, like, I can fall victim to being like, oh, see God? Like, I'm.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:08]:
I'm doing my quiet time. Like, I'm doing this. Or I have my list of things here that I'm asking for, praying about, which, again, are not bad things. But maybe we need to, like, take the humble step to be like, I can sit with God and that's enough. And maybe just trying it and seeing what happens.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:29]:
I love that.
Leslie Johnston [00:46:30]:
I don't know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:31]:
So I kind of feel like you're the spa illustration is the illustration to go into the fall with and maybe even to leave them with the idea of showing up. You're not able to bring anything in. You're just able to sit and to receive and figuring out how to sit comfortably with that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:48]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:46:48]:
Like, if it's. If it's just you and God this year and there's not like, a task list or even a study option, like, you can't catch up on your reading plan. It's not like that. It's just a sitting and receiving and waiting. I don't know. I. I wonder actually if we would be. Become far more productive kingdom builders with that as our mindset.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:08]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:09]:
Because.
Leslie Johnston [00:47:10]:
Well, I'm very fueled more.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:11]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:47:12]:
I'm very behind on my reading plan.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:14]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:47:14]:
You know, I was gonna read the Bible in a year. I'm like, still. Everyone's like, in the New Testament, and I'm like, still in Joshua. I'm like, okay, I'm still back here. And what's funny is, I remember I went into the spa, and I was like, shoot, I should have, like, figured out a way to bring in my Bible, because then I could catch up so much. But I'm like, after my time that I had, I'm like, oh, no. I actually feel way more like, oh, this will be easy to enter back into, and it won't feel like a chore. It won't feel like a task list.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:41]:
And that wasn't what the time was about. The time actually wasn't about catching up. It was about just existing where you were.
Morgan May Treuil [00:47:47]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:47:48]:
And for me, I think I needed that. And I think there's times where you go into your time with God and he does give you a list of things to do. And so then it's like, great, well, then that's where we're at right now, and I'm gonna do that. Or he puts something on, on your mind that you should be praying for, that you should be doing. So it's like. But then I think there's times where God's like, this is, this is a relationship. And I need you to remember that this is a relationship. Like, it's not always you bringing all of your things.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:18]:
So good. Well, hopefully that was encouraging. That encouraged me. I feel like I, I. There were some things that I feel like God started this summer that kind of found, like, a little punctuation mark in our conversation, like, wrapped it up in a bow to take with. And hopefully that. That hopefully people listening to this. You had a really sweet summer.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:38]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:38]:
And if you didn't, that's also okay too.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:41]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:41]:
There's plenty of room for God to move this fall. And I think the rhythm, if anything, that we sort of established and want to take into the fall is how to, like, sit still with God, both in your relationship, but also in your time.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:56]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:48:56]:
And carve out some space for God to move that feels separate from your efforts or what you think that you bring to the table. So maybe in addition to Bible reading or your prayer list, maybe you do carve out some space to go sit and be in nature or wherever, something beautiful. And you just sit. You don't bring a bunch of stuff to do. You just sit. And I think that probably will feel very uncomfortable at first and maybe not productive. Yeah, but that's the point. It's not meant to be productive.
Morgan May Treuil [00:49:24]:
It's meant to just be like, a sitting and a being with.
Leslie Johnston [00:49:27]:
Like, think about it like, like my aura ring, for example, when I got home from that, it literally said, you had way more restorative time than you've had in months. And it was. It literally said, your average restorative time a day is 15 minutes. Like, you take 15 minutes a day to, like, restore.
Morgan May Treuil [00:49:47]:
Wow.
Leslie Johnston [00:49:48]:
And it was, like, three hours of restorative time or something.
Morgan May Treuil [00:49:51]:
So you were actually doing more than you thought.
Leslie Johnston [00:49:53]:
My aura ring caught it. It was literally that. And I was like, maybe think of it that way, because sometimes we go, oh, gosh. I. Like, I'm just gonna sit there and just, like, wait for God to speak to me or.
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:03]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:50:04]:
Give me some revelation or something. And I think if you think about it, like, no, this is restorative time.
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:10]:
Restorative.
Leslie Johnston [00:50:10]:
Like, I'm restoring right now. Like, I have to do this in order to keep going. I think then it. It releases the pressure of, like, whatever that time has to look like, you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:21]:
Know, or I'm wasting time or I should be doing these things. No, restorative is also active work. It's not passive. You just have to retrain your brain to think about it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:32]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:33]:
So, so good.
Leslie Johnston [00:50:34]:
So, wow. If you're feeling tired from the summer or you're not feeling motivated.
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:40]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:50:40]:
Sometimes it's not necessarily like, oh, I just got to do a bunch. Like, I have to get my to do list and do all that. It's like, maybe you need to have some restorative time and then go into the full straw.
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:52]:
I love that.
Leslie Johnston [00:50:52]:
So great. I love it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:54]:
Well, thanks, you guys.
Leslie Johnston [00:50:55]:
Glad you're back.
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:56]:
I know.
Leslie Johnston [00:50:56]:
And Morgan has a bump.
Morgan May Treuil [00:50:58]:
I know. A bump. An actual bump.
Leslie Johnston [00:51:00]:
An actual baby bump.
Morgan May Treuil [00:51:01]:
All the time.
Leslie Johnston [00:51:02]:
Has he been kicking during this podcast?
Morgan May Treuil [00:51:03]:
A couple times. He's the most active at night.
Leslie Johnston [00:51:07]:
Okay.
Morgan May Treuil [00:51:07]:
He's kind of. He's a little.
Leslie Johnston [00:51:09]:
He's a party animal.
Morgan May Treuil [00:51:10]:
He's a party animal at night. The ultrasound is he, like. He kind of is, like, obnoxiously taking up space, like, more than he needs to. I think his legs are, like, fully straight, and he's, like, kicking the ceiling. He's really spread, but, like, in a really unaware kind of, like, spatial. I got. He strikes me as the kind of kid that's gonna touch everybody and touch everything. You know.
Leslie Johnston [00:51:32]:
Self awareness.
Morgan May Treuil [00:51:33]:
I think he's spatial awareness. Yeah. That's gonna be hilarious. So we'll look forward to that parenting journey.
Leslie Johnston [00:51:39]:
That's wild. I'm so excited.
Morgan May Treuil [00:51:41]:
Okay, thanks for listening to Am I Doing this Right? And we'll see you guys next week.
Leslie Johnston [00:51:46]:
Bye.