Morgan May Treuil [00:00:00]:
Okay. So if you're listening to this, we are telling you that I'm pregnant. Yay. Which we need to post the video of me telling you, because that's, like, probably one of the only good surprise videos that I got.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:17]:
The video of you finding out.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:19]:
Well, that. But then specifically, your. Yours was the first time that I got to, like, tell somebody in person and surprise them, because my. I called my sisters, I told my family, and then I told you. Right. My family. But my family was all remote, so it was all, like, FaceTime recording.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:35]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:36]:
So none of the audio. It's not really. They're not great videos. But this was like. I came over to see your house because your house was getting remodeled, and I was, like, really insistent that I wanted to come see it that day.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:47]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:47]:
And I pulled out my phone to take a picture of you and your fun new house, and I was like. It was a video. I was like, I have a secret to tell you. And then I showed you my visa. And you were like, no, you're not. Like, you were so surprised the minute.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:00]:
You said, I have something to tell you. And Benji's, like, literally scurried in the corner at the farthest corner he could find.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:07]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:07]:
And you were like, I'm pregnant. And I was like. I think I actually asked first. Are you pregnant?
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:12]:
Like, my face.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:12]:
You did, like, it almost goes white. Like, I was like, are you pregnant? And then you're like, yes. And I was like, it was great. It was so fun.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:19]:
It was the best video.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:19]:
So Morgan is pregnant. Morgan and Benji pregnant.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:23]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:24]:
We're so excited.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:25]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:25]:
This little, tiny baby.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:27]:
Tiny, little baby. It's the size of a strawberry. A big strawberry. We're getting a new host in the Am I doing this right? Podcast.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:33]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:33]:
But actually, this baby will literally probably never be on this podcast.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:36]:
I'll never see the light of day of the podcast. No, no, no. He or she will.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:41]:
He or she.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:42]:
Okay, so I want us on this episode. I know everyone's probably so excited, and I want to know what were your. Okay. Before you found out.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:51]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:52]:
Did you have any, like, feeling what. What caused you to take a pregnancy test?
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:57]:
Okay. So we had planned. And actually, I'm excited about this conversation because I feel like pregnancy is really exciting. I don't know how many of our listeners. We don't know everybody's life stage. I don't know how many of our listeners. This is something that they are going through. Have already been through or they're really curious about this part of life.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:18]:
And I feel like just the same way as we do everything else. Part of the magic with M doing this right is that we're really honest about all of the good stuff and then all the stuff that makes stuff hard, too. So I want to be. I want to be helpful, you know, and, like. And encouraging and exciting, but also helpful. And I want this. Yeah. So anyways, all that said, we were planning to start trying in September, which would have been two years after we got married.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:43]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:43]:
We had just decided that date because it was two years after, and neither of us had, like, big expectations surrounding timing. We feel like we're in a good spot financially, career wise, all those things. And so we kind of had just decided to start then. And then we are not. We were not, like, on anything, like, crazy preventative to help make it h. To help make it not happen. And it took us by surprise. So we were not trying.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:14]:
And then it happened. But I knew enough to know that this is kind of tmi. I knew enough to know there were a couple dates where some things happened, where I misread where we were at in the calendar. So I knew that there was possibility, but very unlikely. Very unlikely is what I thought. And this is our first pregnancy, so I didn't know how long it would take us or any of those things.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:37]:
But did you think about a lot? Were you like, oh, I could be pregnant right now. I could be pregnant, like, before I took a test?
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:41]:
No.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:41]:
Was it kind of just like. Yeah, probably not.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:43]:
There was a Thursday. Actually, it was a Thursday. And I woke up and I was working all day because Thursdays are a big young adults day. Was really tired, and I didn't feel very well. That's not unnormal for me. Like, I have a lot of anxiety issues, so I feel like I got symptoms all the time.
Leslie Johnston [00:03:57]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:58]:
But the difference with this is I felt like I could smell everything. I remember telling you, like, yeah, I could smell, which is funny, because I don't think that's been a crazy symptom for me. Like, my sense of smell. I can get triggered by smells, but it wasn't. It's not like I can smell everything all the time.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:15]:
No, it was just the beginning.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:16]:
That day. I could smell everything to the point where I was like, this feels like a weird symptom. And the next day, we were going with our friends to Napa for one of our friends, like, bachelorette day trips before her wedding. And I knew we were going to be drinking wine, and I just thought maybe it's the responsible Thing to test, keeping in mind, like, I'm home by myself. Benji's not even in town. I hadn't. I had no confidence this was actually going to be a positive, or else I would have probably waited to take it until Benji was home.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:52]:
How many pregnancy tests have you taken before?
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:54]:
I've taken a lot.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:54]:
A lot. Okay.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:55]:
But I think that's because I have always had a lot of symptoms.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:59]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:00]:
I'll get, like, nausea in addition to anxiety. And so basically, since I became sexually active when marriage happened, I take a lot of tests because I always think it could be a symptom, and it's never anything. So I'm taking this with zero confidence that this is positive. And then all of a sudden. And I'm taking this. This is what's crazy. The day that I took it, I was a week early from when I would have been late for my period. So even if I was pregnant, I was like, it's probably not going to show up positive anyways.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:28]:
This is, like, dumb to take the test. I take the test, and within 60 seconds, it's a very clear cross. Like, very clear. And I've seen some people who've taken their test and it's like, it's the faint line.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:40]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:40]:
This was not that.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:41]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:42]:
And so I was like, oh, shoot. I ordered three more kinds, took all of them. FaceTime, Benji, FaceTime. My mom bless you. And did you're sneezy on the podcast. And so that's. That's the only reason why I thought maybe is because I could smell everything and because I knew that this cycle had. We had not been as careful as we had previously been.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:02]:
But there was no thought in my mind that we were actually pregnant. So this was a surprise. We weren't trying yet, but it wasn't so far out of our, like, desired timeline that it. That it was shocking.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:14]:
A negative thing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:15]:
It was not a negative thing. Yeah, it's. It's not a negative. Yeah, it has been. It's funny how. And people who've been pregnant will experience this and people who haven't. This is something I wish people would have told you. It's crazy how long it takes for anything to really happen because you find out you're pregnant when you're probably, like, four or five weeks along.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:36]:
Maybe you don't even really see a doctor until you're around 10 weeks. That's when they see you for the first time and confirm it's a confirmation of pregnancy appointment.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:45]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:46]:
Which is insane to think about being pregnant for over Two months. And you've yet to confirm it with an actual doctor. All you've relied on is like these sticks that you've peed on and the fact that you feel different but you can't feel anything. You don't look different. That's a very weird experience. It's hard. In my experience that time was really hard to get excited about something that you have no idea what's going on.
Leslie Johnston [00:07:10]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:11]:
Nothing about it felt real. So I didn't feel anything emotionally. People were asking, people who I had trusted to tell at that time were like, are you excited? And I'm like, like, yes and no. And so that it was very surreal when we got to our 10 week appointment and they do your first ultrasound and you see this baby for the first time and you can hear a heartbeat. We actually saw the baby move during that appointment and we looked at each other. We were like, oh my gosh. Like this is legit. This is real.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:41]:
There's an actual baby in there. But then it's been a month now since we had that appointment and then nothing happens in between. Like you don't. So it's, it's like an. I just thought once you got pregnant you would immediately feel pregnant all the time and you would be so aware of it in such an exciting way.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:00]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:01]:
And it's been a little like, start, stop, start, stop.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:04]:
Yeah. Like high excitement and then you kind of dip down into like, I haven't seen anything recently or I'm.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:09]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:10]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:11]:
And you're really sick at first too. So it's a lot of like, I need something to be excited about. There's not much yet to be excited about besides growing life in you. But you haven't seen any. And it's not like we've taken home a baby from the hospital before, so we don't even know what this is all for. Totally by experience.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:29]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:30]:
So that's been.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:32]:
Cuz before I remember we didn't really talk about this that much, but before your first appointment, I feel like you were super sick. Like right before that even. Were you ever like, man, this is really tough for something I haven't even seen.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:47]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:48]:
Because I feel like that first appointment, I remember you saying like, this makes it all worth it. Like that is a hard thing to be. Like I've never seen this baby. I actually don't even know. 100% sure that it's there because I'm relying on a, like a. At home test. Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:00]:
But I, I like to be careful. Or I'm Realizing I have learned that I need to be careful for a couple reasons. Number one, because I. I, before getting pregnant, was one of those people where, like, I listened to everything everybody said about their symptoms and their things, and I would immediately apply it to myself.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:19]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:19]:
So I started to become. Try to be careful about, like, everyone's experiences are so different. So just because this is my experience, if you're an anxious brain who thinks that everyone's symptoms are your symptoms, that's not necessarily true for you. There' million things that can determine what kind of pregnancy that you'll have. But there have been some days where I've been really sick, and that is really hard to get excited. Like, I was actually, I was excited about the idea of being pregnant before I was pregnant. I have been surprised at how many times, and this is honesty. My mind has thought, I cannot wait for things to go back to normal.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:55]:
And. And we're so far away from normal, you know, especially during this part of it, because from what I understand, I haven't experienced a second or a third from what understand second and third have their own challenges because the baby is actually getting bigger and you're getting closer to delivery. This has felt like the most lonely and mysterious and scary part. I'll let you know if that's still true at the end of all of this. Because you're going through something you don't understand. You've never been through it before. Typically, people don't share it. Yet I've shared it a lot because, yeah, I don't want to be alone with it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:33]:
Yeah, that scares me. And yeah, it's kind of. It's. There have been parts of it that have been kind of dark. And I only say that to say if that probably might. It might not be your experience, but if it is, I do feel like that's something that's not talked about a whole bunch with the whole first trimester thing, is that you're alone with something and you can't see any physical fruit of what's happening to you yet. All you feel is, like, the physical toll that it takes.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:01]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:01]:
And that can be hard to stay encouraged towards. And so one of the things that I started doing really early as I started talking to people about it, even though everyone recommended not to. And I understand why they say not to.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:14]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:14]:
But I needed to, like, hear positive stories of people who have been to the other side of this and could say, hey, this gets better.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:22]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:23]:
And the other thing that's been, like, funny about this too, is like, all of our close friends, none of us have kids yet.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:30]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:31]:
And so it's, it's going to be fun when other people start to have kids because then we have each other and we can be like, hey, this is how you.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:38]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:38]:
But it has been like, oh, like the people that I do so much of my everyday life with, the people that I text for advice on things, it's like that, that part can be isolating too, you know, so there's parts.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:49]:
Of it, the first set of your family.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:52]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:53]:
Like your sisters don't have kids yet.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:54]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:54]:
You're the first in the friend group. Like, you are really blazing the path, but that's hard. I mean, you do have friends that have kids, but.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:02]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:03]:
Your people you do everyday life with.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:04]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:05]:
That is, that is lonely for sure.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:07]:
Yeah. It's also. And I, I think this is something we could talk about too, and I want to hear your perspective on this. The whole, like, season changing and you didn't decide it to change.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:20]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:21]:
It is crazy how when you think about your life every time that your season has changed. Going from middle school to element or middle school to high school, from high school to college, from college to your first job, the decision to get married, to move to a new place, all decisions that are within your control to an extent. You don't control going from sixth to seventh grade. But it's also not a bad. It's just part of growing.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:41]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:42]:
Most decisions in life under your control. Some people decide to start trying to get pregnant. That decision is under their control to start trying. This was the first decision where I was like, oh, it was taken from me.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:53]:
It happened to me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:53]:
This happened.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:54]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:55]:
This happened to us. We didn't happen to it.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:57]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:58]:
And I say it because we don't know the gender, not because I'm making some kind of a statement. Yeah. And that has been a funny thing. I think we'll feel the, the bigger effects of that once the baby's actually here because that's when the season really changes for sure. But I have also experienced a little bit of the hypothetical morning of, okay, what does this mean for, like, work rhythms are going to be different now. What does this mean for friend rhythms? Not that our friends are going to change, but that we all of a sudden have this extra beautiful blessing that changes the dynamics of things and marriage changes. That was crazy too. Like, what's.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:37]:
We don't have a baby yet. I thought, oh, we still have nine months until marriage changes. But you feel so sick at times.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:44]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:45]:
And you're kind of like at the mercy of what your body wants to do and what your body wants to feel. That even your marriage rhythms start changing as soon as you get pregnant, basically.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:54]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:55]:
And so it was. It's the first time for me where I've had to be like, oh, I'm really not in control of my life and God's doing something at God's timing and in God's way that I have to trust is better than mine.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:07]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:08]:
But it's the first time that I really feel like, oh, I had no. I had no jurisdiction in the. Other than the decision to have semi unprotected sex.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:18]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:19]:
This is the first time that it feels like there was a decision that happened and I still feel so much blessing and excitement over it. And at the same time, there's a lot of like the what ifs that are circling my brain of, okay, like everything's gonna change and that will be a great thing. And my life as I knew it is really different.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:38]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:38]:
That's like an adjustment.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:40]:
Yeah. What do you feel like is something like your first. Because you're almost. Are you out of your. You're going to be out of your.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:48]:
First trimester when this airs?
Leslie Johnston [00:14:50]:
Yeah, we are this. What do you feel like? Because obviously you've talked about like you're pretty anxious person.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:56]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:14:57]:
What has been like the most anxiety inducing thing about your first trimester?
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:03]:
Okay.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:04]:
So besides the fact we'll just rule out losing the baby, obviously, that's. That's something that everybody, I think, fears. But outside of that, outside the really, really serious.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:12]:
But like, you know how crazy of a person I am though, is that that thought has not been. And this is just honesty. That thought has not been at the top of my.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:23]:
Okay.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:23]:
List of things that are freaking me out. The biggest thing, and I don't want to talk about it too much in case people listening have this, is that I'm. I'm in a metaphobic before pregnanc. So I'm terrified of all things throwing up. I'm constantly scared that I'm going to throw up. What I'm going to eat is going to make me throw up. I'm going to be in a situation where I can't control the fact that I have to throw and I'm unprepared. Like, I spent my whole life navigating that fear and all of a sudden that's like now it's like a reality.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:50]:
It's a known symptom.
Leslie Johnston [00:15:52]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:15:53]:
Of a thing that like a Widely known symptom. Not that everybody has to throw up, but that that's just part of this and that's been a really cool and hard victory, is that for the first time in my life, I feel like I've been able to move the throwing up thing from the category of category 5. This is life altering. Not okay, alert, alert, alert. I've been able to move from that category into a category of this happens and it does not kill you. Yes, it is. Okay. And I think part of the healing in that has been maybe there's a bigger theological principle in this.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:31]:
Part of the healing in that has been there's a reason for it. There's a positive reason for it. This to me, was one of the worst things that could happen to me, as silly as that sounds, because there are lots of really bad things happening to people all over the world. There are people who have such bad things happening to them that throwing up would be a cakewalk compared to what they're going through. And yet, because of my anxiety and my obsession with this, this has been like a top fear for me for a very, very, very long time. And this has been a really cool learning experience that because I was able to attach positive meaning to this thing of suffering, I've been able to change its category in my brain from detrimental to this is okay.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:12]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:13]:
And I think that lesson has a lot of underlying things that have been really cool.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:19]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:20]:
That suffering can be suffering and it can be the worst. And if you can apply a little bit of meaning to it, you can make. You can change its category in your brain.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:29]:
That's really good.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:30]:
So, like, throwing up used to be just the worst, most life ending thing. Now throwing up actually is a sign that my hormones are changing, which means that something's growing.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:41]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:42]:
Like people on tick tock get freaked out when they stop getting sick because they think something's wrong.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:46]:
Wow.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:46]:
And I'm like, oh, my gosh. I would literally never think that something was wrong.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:50]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:50]:
Stopped feeling this way.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:51]:
Be like, praise God.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:53]:
I think that that's like a. That's like a big life thing that I've learned.
Leslie Johnston [00:17:59]:
It is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:00]:
Yeah. Do you do. Does the idea of being pregnant or having kids scare you or excite you at this point in your life?
Leslie Johnston [00:18:08]:
Honestly, you getting pregnant makes me more excited about it. Honestly. Because before that I think nobody had kids. So I was like. And obviously I'm not married yet, but yes, I kind of have been scared to be like, oh, I see, like the joy in kids and like the Joy that that brings. But I also see a lot of people who are pretty exhausted and kind of, like, there's just a lot. Having kids is a lot.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:35]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:18:36]:
And it changes your life dynamic, and it changes a lot of different things. Like you said.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:40]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:18:40]:
And so I think the negative thoughts about it kind of overruled a little bit in my mind of, like, okay, I definitely want kids. Not right now. Like, I don't want them. Right. Which, obviously, I'm not married yet, but I don't want them right now because I don't want my life and my friends. And I just feel like we're in such a good season. I don't want that to change. But you getting pregnant has been a cool, like, in my mind, going, like, oh, okay, so.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:08]:
And I think it will be fun, which, like, this is what I'm hoping and praying for you and for all of us, is that this baby is, like, such an addition to the group and that it's a great start for everybody, you know? And, like, we've always joked with each other. We're like, we'll help you raise this baby. Like, I've said that forever.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:27]:
And before we were married.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:29]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:30]:
We were worried that we had immaculate conception.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:32]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:34]:
Because we were not sexually active, but our period hadn't come yet. And we're like, oh.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:37]:
We're like, oh. I remember telling Morgan, morgan, I'll help you raise this baby. This baby that definitely doesn't exist. But I don't know. I think I. I feel like you going first makes it a little easier for everybody else.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:51]:
Can we. Can I ask you a question? You don't have to have an answer to this.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:54]:
Okay.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:55]:
And I probably. I. This is a question I wish I would have asked you before we started filming. You don't have to answer this.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:58]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:59]:
But I think it's an honest question that we don't talk about enough.
Leslie Johnston [00:20:01]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:04]:
When Amanda got engaged, my sister, it was not hard for me because she got engaged, but it was like the death of a season.
Leslie Johnston [00:20:14]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:14]:
Was there any. Is there any part of you, or was there any part of which you've experienced seasons changing already in life? Because people close to you get, you know, like, life changes. Like, yeah, you got a house. And I was like, oh, shoot. We're growing up. Like, this is. We're getting houses.
Leslie Johnston [00:20:28]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:28]:
Was there any part of me getting pregnant that was, like, scary or, like, alarmed bells of like, oh, shoot, Everything's gonna, like. Because I think we don't talk about that. The people that you journey With. In, like, closeness. And you go from, like, a certain season where you're on the same page. Like, even when I got married, it's like, Benji' gone so much, and we work so much that I don't feel like our rhythms changed other than the fact that we don't wake up in the same house and go to sleep in the same house.
Leslie Johnston [00:20:52]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:53]:
We don't get to have a constant sleepover, but even sometimes, we still do. This, to me, is, like, the first thing where even I'm. I'm feeling all of that. But I don't think friends or people close to you are ever given the space to say, like, yeah, it is hard because.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:06]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:06]:
You can't say that when you're like, I'm not gonna say that she's pregnant. That's a. Like, I would never. You know what I'm saying?
Leslie Johnston [00:21:11]:
Totally. When you first told me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:14]:
Yeah. I was the only one in my.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:16]:
Face, I was like. But it was, like, watching before I. Because it was so unexpected, our whole friend, literally no idea. And I thought I would always know. So I think my first part was like, how did I not know this? Like, I was like, how did I not?
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:30]:
Which you kind of did. You just didn't know that's what it was.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:33]:
Yeah. The day before, I was like, morgan's acting so weird. She's not wine tasting and whatever.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:40]:
She's not drinking Prosecco at dinner or something's wrong.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:42]:
Thing is wrong. But when you first told me, it was, like, rapid thoughts. And again, it's not about me. It's not about me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:51]:
Which is why I think this is an important conversation.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:53]:
It was equal excitement of, like, oh, my gosh, I'm so excited. But equal. Like, I hope Morgan is still friends with all of us after this.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:02]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:22:02]:
That was my first, like, when I actually. When the excitement wore down.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:06]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:22:07]:
I think I talked to Christy about that later. I was like, I'm afraid that Morgan's gonna have this baby and we're never gonna see her again.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:13]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:22:14]:
Because I was like, not.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:15]:
Yes, that's my. But, yes, I get that. That. That's a crazy thing. Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:22:20]:
And I have a lot of experiences with friends who have. Which. And these are all for very different reasons, but friends who have had kids and I don't see them anymore.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:31]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:22:31]:
Like, their life changes. They get really. Like, obviously, having a baby totally changes a lot of your life. And so you can't, like, always go out or you can't always hang out with everybody. You can't.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:42]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:22:43]:
Whatever. So my first thought was like, I'm so excited. My second thought was, I'm so scared that Morgan's not gonna be. This changes everything and that she's only gonna be on Friends with Moms.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:54]:
Yes. No offense to mom. No, I'm. I'm. Thank you for saying that because that I think is a real thing that people feel where it's like the people that use your life closest with there is a morning that comes with when their season changes. Like. Yeah, I don't know, like in it, this is a different thing. But even like when you bought a house and moved out of like our.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:18]:
On our childhood home, but like Sweeney, like it was like a, like a life step that you were making that just felt like. I think any big life steps the people around you take, whether they are deciding to or they just happen, there's a aspect of you that feels really excited. I can't wait for this. This is going to be so cool. This is the future. And then also like, what does all this mean? And you can't know. You can't immediately know that nothing's going to change because it hasn't actually happened yet. The thing hasn't happened yet.
Leslie Johnston [00:23:47]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:48]:
And so I feel like I'm glad you said that because for the people that are listening to this where you're like, I have really close friends or close people where they're either getting married or they're like moving or they're having a bait or something is changing and you're like, yeah, it's not about me, but I still feel really big things about it. That is okay. Yeah, that's a very okay thing to feel because that means that you have something so good right now that if and when it changes, it can feel like mourning. And then also there's like the addressing the fear thought of just cuz things have been done a certain way by certain people in the past. Doesn't mean that your fear is going to come true.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:33]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:24:34]:
The thing that you think is going to happen is going to come true.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:36]:
Yeah. And that's what. When I was talking with Christy about it, she's like, this is a very different scenario. Like, yeah, your other past experiences were totally different people and different reasons for why. Like, I mean, people moved and people whatever did different things. And so I think I've had to go. Which thankfully that was only a thought I had for like a day or two. It was like a thought where I was like, oh man.
Leslie Johnston [00:25:00]:
Like, I really hope this doesn't change. Like our friendship you know, and. But then after, like really thinking and talking about it, I was like, Morgan is totally different than. She's different from other people. And our friendship, like, it doesn't. It can get better from this, not worse.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:20]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:25:20]:
And I think sometimes we foresee the future in a negative way. We could put like a fear lens on of like, oh no, this person is going to do this thing and they're going to leave and whatever. But I think then you're only looking at the future for what's the worst that could happen? Instead of like, what's the best that could happen?
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:38]:
That's a great point.
Leslie Johnston [00:25:40]:
Part of. And I look at like my own relationship with my sister. Like when she got married, I remember being like, oh, no, like, this is going to change the dynamic. Like, she's not going to hang out with us anymore or whatever. And now we probably hang out more than we did when she lived with us.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:54]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:25:54]:
So I feel like there's. Everyone's just every season is really different. And I think it's like stopping the thought in your mind of like negatively looking at the future and going like, no, but what's actually the best that could happen? And then you start to actually live into the best of it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:09]:
So. Good.
Leslie Johnston [00:26:10]:
And so now I'm just so excited.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:12]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:26:13]:
I feel like I'm overbearingly excited.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:15]:
Living into the best of it is a. Is a great. Like. Yeah. It's like if you. We're so. We white knuckle certain seasons because they feel like the best seasons, but they're not gonna. People.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:27]:
People are growing people. Like, we're all. We're all growing up and we're all dying eventually. So you're not designed to stay in the same season. And staying in the same season can actually be stifling to friendships too.
Leslie Johnston [00:26:38]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:38]:
And so what I've been telling myself is because I have the same fears, but on the flip side, you know, of like, you know, I think. I think in my mind when we were going to start trying, it was going to be closer to the same time that other people would probably start trying.
Leslie Johnston [00:26:55]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:55]:
So then even though, you know, our friend group is made up of people in different life stages and life seasons, so not everybody would have been trying at the same time. And it doesn't happen at the same time for everybody. But in my mind, I thought, we won't be the only ones.
Leslie Johnston [00:27:07]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:08]:
And then that choice was not. The choice wasn't taken. That's not what I mean. But the choice was made. And then it was happening to us. And then I've had the same sort of grief, but from the different side of it of, like, people, like, they're gonna grow away from us and around us because their season is different, you know? And, like.
Leslie Johnston [00:27:27]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:28]:
But then what I've had to. What I've even, like, something. This is, like, just an example. But this is practical stuff, I think is helpful. But even, like, this summer, we're trying to figure out all of our schedules so we can go on a group trip. And then one part of me is like, we have to make this work because this is our, like, one of our. It's not our last time.
Leslie Johnston [00:27:46]:
What's your last summer without having a baby?
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:47]:
It's our last time with having a baby. But then my brain is like, this is our last time we have the opportunity to go away with our friends. And that's not true, you know?
Leslie Johnston [00:27:56]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:56]:
And then it's like we. We. Our schedules make it complicated because we can't travel later into our pregnancy. So we're trying to prioritize, making sure we do all of our summer trips with family and our family lives out of state.
Leslie Johnston [00:28:08]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:09]:
And so it's like, stuff like that. Even my fear thought is like, they're going to forget about us because we're in a different season and they're able to move faster than we are. And the thing I have to keep telling myself to combat those fear thoughts is like, change is a good thing. I believe in these friendships beyond just. They're only predicated on if everything stays the exact same. Those are not friendships. Right. Like, friendships are the things that grow with you over time.
Leslie Johnston [00:28:35]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:35]:
And so if that's true, then we are going to be able to grow with and into, like, new seasons and things, you know, I'm excited for, like, the way that this baby is gonna know all these. You know, all these. Some of my favorite relationships that I had growing up were not just parents, sisters, aunts, uncles, and cousins, but we had all these, like, close family life friends. And you guys had those, too, where they feel like aunts and uncles and cousins because you just do so much life together. And I'm like, that's. That's the future of this, you know, and it gets to happen. There are so many benefits to that, too. Like, the second that I have a fear thought where I'm like, oh, no, they're all gonna go off and hang off without us, I, like, try to replace it with a better thought of, like, our baby's gonna get the most Attention.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:26]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:29:27]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:28]:
Of any baby.
Leslie Johnston [00:29:29]:
Never hit the ground.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:30]:
Everybody's gonna be so obsessed with the baby and you know. Or like we're not. We're gonna miss out on stuff because we're gonna have to go home earlier. We're gonna have to have the baby and I try to replace it with a. With another thought of like.
Leslie Johnston [00:29:41]:
No.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:41]:
But we have such chill friends. We'll bring the baby. Or we have such a great support system with our ministry that we'll have teenagers or young adults come over and watch and. And even if that stuff isn't necessarily exactly true or exactly how it will play out, it's like I think we get paralyzed or we. We get stuck in too much mourning. When it comes to seasons changing. If we're always just giving in to the fear thoughts of what happens with change. When there's lots of great thoughts that you can replace.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:07]:
It's like the Dr. Amon ants. Things like stomp those out and replace them with new thoughts. I think that's just the reality of like a season changing. And pregnancy is one of the biggest season changes.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:20]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:22]:
That can happen. Especially when you're the woman.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:24]:
Totally. Because it's happening to you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:26]:
It's happening to you. Your body changes first.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:28]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:29]:
Before the husband's. It's his never body. His body never changes. But I'm just saying like, like he doesn't feel the baby affect him until it's out and like totally touching hand and stuff.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:39]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:39]:
Or he's holding it.
Leslie Johnston [00:30:40]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:41]:
So first your body changes. Like you're at the mercy of your body. And then your schedule and your life changes. Like this will be a. This. I was talking to somebody about this yesterday. This will be the first time in my life where work is not the number one thing that I do. Cuz even getting married we live such fast paced lives.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:03]:
I've never not been somebody who like I think work is an identity thing for me.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:07]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:08]:
That. I think God will fix that in this next season.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:12]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:12]:
But I'm very scared of that.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:14]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:14]:
I'm also so excited about a baby. Like I'm so. I'm. I was ne. And this is cool too to what you're talking about. I was never somebody who is excited about a baby.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:23]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:24]:
Never. Like even when I got married I thought, oh, I'll change and I'll get excited about a baby.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:29]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:29]:
And I really wasn't.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:31]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:32]:
Until we got pregnant and I saw the baby and I was like I would throw my body in front of. Not right now. Because Baby's in it. But I would throw my body in front of a bus for that baby.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:39]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:40]:
And so I know that there's lots that will change when we see the baby. But there is a huge part of me, too, that's scared of, like, wow, this will be the first time that my life and my body and my needs completely change.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:53]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:53]:
Around a person. And I have not put that much thought into that.
Leslie Johnston [00:31:58]:
I remember. I think it was Charmaine that said this a while ago, I think after she had her first kid. And she said, like, having a baby is like God giving you the gift of self forgetfulness. And it's like she goes, especially when they're, like, little and you're having it, like, going after every need that they have. She's like, I forget about my own needs. Which kind of sometimes is a good thing when you can be someone who's stuck in your head a lot. And so I think that's just such a cool way to look at it. Of, not like, oh, I'm losing all these parts of myself, but more like, it's actually a gift to be able to forget about yourself.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:36]:
That's so good.
Leslie Johnston [00:32:37]:
So that was really cool.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:39]:
I love that.
Leslie Johnston [00:32:40]:
I think. I think life will look different, but I think it's one of those. But at the same time, like, we've all gone through which they're different changes, but it's like people have gotten. They've. We all. I mean, at one point, we all lived in the same house, all of our friends, and it was so fun. That was such a fun season. But I would say our season now is just as fun in different ways.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:05]:
But all of our lives are really different now. And I mean, I think it's. It just has gotten better, which is great. So I think this next season will be one.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:15]:
Will be one that gets better.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:16]:
That gets better.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:16]:
Yeah. Yeah, that's.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:18]:
I love that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:19]:
It's a great point.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:19]:
I love that. Yeah. Is there anything. Oh, do what. You know, let's take everybody a little bit on your name. Let's take everybody on the name journey that Morgan has. I saw a name the other day, and I was like, someone's like, that sounds like a name Morgan would like. I gotta remember what it is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:40]:
But is it the Instagram influencer?
Leslie Johnston [00:33:43]:
The new book that we're reading, the twins. In the book, their names are Luca and Laviana.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:49]:
Laviana.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:50]:
Laviana.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:51]:
Not as a Morgan name.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:52]:
Jen was like, that's a Morgan name, right?
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:55]:
Aviana. I love it. My. The name Thing is funny, we don't have a name. So if. If you think that's the way this conversation is going to end, it's not. But I've always been one of those people that's like, I just want a really creative name.
Leslie Johnston [00:34:07]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:08]:
Benji's more. So, like, I want the name to be strong and not. And classic and not lead to any extra attention or bullying or any of those things. And so there was, like, times where I just, like, totally played with stuff. I was like, I read a book, a kid's book one time where the. The fairy's name was Iridessa. And I was like, I love that name. There's been a time where I was like, in the Bible, there's these two stones that are present in the new Jerusalem.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:36]:
It's Jasper and Carnelian. And I was like, we'll have twins, Jasper and Carnelian. So, so funny. And there's like, all these different names where I'm just like, yes, these are so.
Leslie Johnston [00:34:47]:
We love. And my favorite is. I think we've talked about this on the podcast. We'll, like, see random names. And you're like, Like. Like an object.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:54]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:34:54]:
Hammer.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:55]:
Yes. Great Hammer. Trucker.
Leslie Johnston [00:34:58]:
Trucker. Felony.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:59]:
Felony. Yes. Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:35:00]:
We're like, felony is a great name. Felony is if it didn't mean what it meant.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:04]:
Also, this name. I think you were with me when I said this. This name to me would be a great name if it didn't mean what it meant. Placenta. So names like that, I'm like, to troll. I love all of it. I don't know if we'll be the kind of people where it's like, you gotta see the baby to know.
Leslie Johnston [00:35:23]:
Yeah. I can't imagine what's a name that you really like. And Benji's like, no, this is like those videos that people like. Here's the wedding dresses. I didn't choose.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:32]:
Yes. A name that I really like that Benji doesn't like is Pardon.
Leslie Johnston [00:35:38]:
Pardon.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:40]:
A R, D, O, N. And he doesn't like it because it's too. He thinks it's too commonly used. He's like, everyone says, pardon me. And I'm like, when was the last time you ever heard somebody say pardon me?
Leslie Johnston [00:35:51]:
Out of all reasons not to choose, Pardon. That's not a stupid one.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:55]:
I know. So I think if I do look.
Leslie Johnston [00:35:57]:
At, like, you're part of.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:58]:
That's why I like it. That's why I like it.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:01]:
Yeah, it's a good name.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:01]:
I don't know if I want to use it. I Don't know what this means. We don't know the gender yet, but I don't know what this means. But I. We only have boy name ideas. We don't have any girl name ideas.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:09]:
I think you're having a boy.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:11]:
That makes me feel like we have an instinct about it. But if we do have a girl.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:15]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:15]:
We have no names.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:16]:
Everyone has said that they think you're having a boy.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:19]:
Yeah. I think I give off boy mom vibes to people.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:22]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:23]:
I wonder why.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:24]:
But it's funny because you come from a whole family of girls, which is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:27]:
Why I think the girl thing to me feels less scary. Because it's what I know.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:32]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:33]:
The boy thing. And then we were, we were at, we were at a wedding for one of our good friends the other day, and I remember thinking she gave this beautiful speech where she just thanked her.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:43]:
Mom, crying and crying.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:45]:
Her mom's her best friend. I love you. We'll be best friends forever. Here's these flowers. It's like her wedding day, and she's giving a tribute to her mom. And at our table, I was like, I do not want a boy. I want a girl. I want that experience.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:58]:
Boys just leave you, and girls stay with you for your whole life.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:01]:
It was a wedding where the, the boy was literally leaving a country to come here. Leaving his mother's mom is like, she's.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:09]:
Literally in a different country. I'm like, this sucks. I want a girl.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:12]:
It was like, out loud. Morgan's like, I don't want a boy anymore. I want a girl. Because she had been so boy, so boy.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:18]:
And then I was like, girl. But I do think it's a boy. I don't know, but I do think it's a boy. My, my gut tells me it's a boy. If it's a girl, I'll be very.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:26]:
Surprised if it's a girl. Will you? I guess I can't ask. I'm trying to ask you, like, which would you be most excited for, but you can't answer that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:33]:
I, I, this is the way I've been saying it. I would be equally or both.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:36]:
Uhhuh.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:37]:
I would be surprised.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:38]:
If it was a girl, I will be shocked.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:41]:
I will be girl. If it's a, if it's a girl, I will be shocked. If it's a boy, I will be equally surprised, but equally excited, but not surprised.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:50]:
Okay.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:50]:
Cuz I feel like in my head, it's been a boy the whole time. Like when we first saw the picture. There's one. I show I showed it to you. There's this one picture of the baby where he looks like he's. I say he because it looks like a he. He looks like he's wearing a headlamp. A headlamp.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:03]:
Like he's mining or something. And ever since I saw that, I'm like, it's a boy.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:06]:
It's a boy. It's gotta be a boy.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:09]:
So we'll keep it updated.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:11]:
Morgan literally know she has the email?
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:14]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:15]:
Because I got it for the last four we started. The last couple days, I've been like, so Morgan got the blood test done or whatever. So then I thought, results come back in 24 hours.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:25]:
They send it off to a lab that's not. Because we. It's like a genetic testing lab.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:30]:
Yeah, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:30]:
So they send it off to a lab that's not here.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:32]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:32]:
So it has to. This was crazy, by the way. Something I never thought would happen. They give you a FedEx box full of tubes. You have to go get them filled by your lab. You take it to FedEx.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:46]:
That's crazy.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:46]:
And they're like, hey, make sure you drop this off today. And I'm like, yeah, I'm assuming. What do you mean? Duh. Like, I thought y' all were gonna do this. And also, I'm not gonna let blood just sit in my car for a few days and take it to FedEx when I get the chance. Like. Like, yes, I'll be taking it today. And that's crazy.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:01]:
So what's funny is. Yeah, keep going. You were saying.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:03]:
Oh. So she sent off the blood and I thought for sure, 24 hours. Like they tell you right away, whatever. And so it's been like what, a week and a half? Two weeks?
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:13]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:14]:
And I'm like, morgan knows the gender and she's not telling us.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:17]:
Cuz we're going to do this like a.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:19]:
She's. She's telling her family first, which totally makes sense. But I'm like, she knows and she's not telling. She's like, no, I haven't gotten the results back. And I'm like, like, you're a liar. Yes, you have them and you're not telling us.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:28]:
So I told her literally right before we filmed this episode. I'm like, I will show you that I don't know.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:32]:
Because I'm like, she knows, you guys.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:34]:
And she. I will show you. And so I pull it up and I refresh the page. I've been refreshing the page for the past two weeks.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:39]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:39]:
And it says result or like results not ready or whatever.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:43]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:43]:
Every time I, I refresh the page and I'm like, look, see? And I pull it up and it says, results ready. As soon as I pull it up.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:50]:
To show you, I'm screaming. I'm like, like, press it. She's like, I can't press it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:53]:
Ben's not here.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:55]:
I'm like, oh, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:55]:
Which I'm like. It's funny because this is how much of a surprise this was. I took the test not thinking at all that it would have been a positive. So Benji's not with me. I didn't even tell him I was taking the test because I take tests all the time.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:10]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:11]:
And so I was like, no, from this point forward, I will not do anything without Benji sitting right next to me to make sure that I don't believe him out of a moment again. Because he was in Hawaii on a work thing when I tested positive and I was so shocked, I didn't even do something cute. I just FaceTimed him and I was like, what is this? And he was eating a sandwich or something. So it was like not festive at all.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:33]:
I love that though.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:34]:
It was very us.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:35]:
Yeah. I just, I want to be the person that looks at it first and then I do the reveal for you guys.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:40]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:42]:
I'm like, I'll do a little, I'll.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:44]:
Do a little thing. Yeah, we need to do something.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:46]:
So. Yeah. But that though for a while, which is, is upsetting, but it's not a while.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:50]:
You'll know in a week.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:51]:
That's so long.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:52]:
That's not that much time.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:53]:
So long.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:55]:
But we're gonna do a. We're gonna take photos this Saturday. This Sunday.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:58]:
Yeah. Are you gonna do something with the gender?
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:01]:
Not with those photos, but we're gonna do. When we do. When we go to Texas.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:05]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:06]:
Do a gender reveal in Texas.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:07]:
That's right.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:08]:
And we're gonna pop. There's a wedding photo that we made at the end of our, like when we, when we left. Remember how we popped those silver streamers?
Leslie Johnston [00:41:15]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:16]:
And there's a photo we took where we're like hugging and there's silver streamers around. And so we're gonna order those same streamers, but in blue or pink.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:25]:
Cute.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:25]:
And then we're gonna pop them as like the reveal. Everyone else gonna pop them. And then my sister in law is a photographer and she's actually gonna be there and she's gonna take that same kind of photo.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:33]:
Oh.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:34]:
Which I think will be fun.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:35]:
That'll be so fun. Yeah. So fun.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:37]:
So anyways, so that's the news, and I'm so excited. We're not. This is not gonna.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:41]:
By the way, I just don't tell anybody, guys. She hasn't told.
Morgan May Treuil [00:41:44]:
This is not gonna become a pregnancy podcast. So if. In case. Shoot.
Leslie Johnston [00:41:48]:
You guys, Morgan had you all in mind, because, like, I think five minutes after she told me in my house, she's like, by the way, we're not even going to say this on the podcast because nobody cares that I'm. I'm like, okay, Morgan, I think more people will care than you think.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:02]:
We are not gonna make this. Like, I'm excited for the new conversations this opens up for us, but don't. If you're worried that this is going to be like, a mommy, a maternity thing, or like a mommy. It's not gonna be that. It's gonna be all of the things.
Leslie Johnston [00:42:15]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:16]:
But we'll keep you guys kind of updated as we go. But that's. That's the news. And those are kind of like the first reflections. And also, we are. I just want to be clear. We are. We are so excited, and we have no idea what to expect.
Morgan May Treuil [00:42:31]:
And the. So. So we're. We got to process, like, the honest stuff of it, which is what this podcast is for. But we also know how much of a blessing and how exciting it is, too. But I always want to, like, talk about it with. With reality in mind, because I think one of the ways that I was unpleasantly surprised is that most people that talk to me about it talked about the magic of it, and then getting into it, you don't feel. I didn't feel magic for a while, and that scared me that I was, like, broken about it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:03]:
And so when we first got married, I had a lot of people tell me, hey, sex is going to be hard, and it's going to suck at first, and it's going to hurt and all those things. And I was like. Like, I'm really glad that you told me that, because it did. All of those things were true, and I'm so glad that my expectations were not too high. And so I just say all of that to say, like, if you. If you're in this season and you're like, this felt really different than I thought it would. I don't think it's, like, one. It.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:29]:
I don't think it feels one way. I think it feels a lot of ways all at the same time. So just so y' all know, I.
Leslie Johnston [00:43:35]:
Was talking with someone the other day, and we were Talking about pregnancy and everything. And she was like, I think every girl who's pregnant needs someone older than them who has walked through it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:46]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:43:47]:
To go like, that's normal.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:48]:
Yes, that's normal.
Leslie Johnston [00:43:49]:
What you're feeling.
Morgan May Treuil [00:43:50]:
That's normal.
Leslie Johnston [00:43:50]:
That's normal. It's normal. Because she's like, there were pregnancies I walked through where I had no idea if it was normal or not. And I was in my head even about my feelings and my emotions about it.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:00]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:00]:
Like, if I wasn't super excited in the moment, then it's like, am I going to be a terrible mom?
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:05]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:05]:
Or like, if you're super excited but you're whatever. Just the. The list is endless.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:11]:
Endless.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:12]:
You talk to people again and just like it. Being honest with people.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:16]:
Y.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:17]:
More often than not, you hear the like, oh, me too. I felt the same way.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:20]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:20]:
And real people can be that for somebody else.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:23]:
Yes. Real people are more important to talk to about these things than online people. Because online people can't see your face. They don't know what you need in that moment.
Leslie Johnston [00:44:31]:
Y.
Morgan May Treuil [00:44:31]:
So it's like I've had a couple instances where I went to an online source, was scared, went to an in person source and was comforted. And so that's like a really big part of this too. And there's also keeping in mind too, there's lots that people don't remember from this part of pregnancy because it's the very beginning of a long process. So lots of things that you actually do feel people don't remember it enough to talk about it at the front end. And then you're like, oh, shoot, no one ever talked like, I cramped for my entire first trimester period. Cramps. And I was like, no one's ever talked about this. And it took me two text messages with real humans to be like, oh, yeah, I did cramp a lot during the first trimester.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:10]:
And you don't remember it.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:11]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:12]:
Which I get why people don't remember it.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:13]:
Because I block it out.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:14]:
You block it out.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:15]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:15]:
But that's a great point. It's like, yeah, this is this. You're. If that's normal. Yeah, you're okay. That's normal.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:21]:
Yep. So, so good. Well, well, I'm so excited. So excited. I'm so excited that the world now knows.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:28]:
The world knows. Or the world will know when this comes out.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:31]:
Yep.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:31]:
So fun.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:31]:
Yep.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:32]:
Thanks for joining us, you guys, from Leslie and I and our little baby strawberry co host.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:37]:
That's right.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:38]:
It's the size of a strawberry next week. Last week it was the size of prune, which was so much grosser than a strawberry.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:44]:
Strawberry. Strawberry is big.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:46]:
And it's like. It's a big strawberry. Like, it's like. It's like this big.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:50]:
That's cool. Crazy. That grows so fast.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:52]:
It grows so fast.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:53]:
Wow.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:54]:
It's got all kinds of stuff going on.
Leslie Johnston [00:45:55]:
Well, we'll keep you guys updated.
Morgan May Treuil [00:45:57]:
Okay, bye.