Girl Talk with the Homesort Girls

Leslie Johnston [00:00:00]:
Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Am I Doing this Right? And I'm so excited because two of my best friends are on this episode.

Ryan [00:00:06]:
So happy.

Leslie Johnston [00:00:07]:
Brandie and Ryan, you guys, we've been laughing all morning.

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:10]:
Yes, I know.

Leslie Johnston [00:00:12]:
I'm like, I hope we are going to get to some like, good, heartfelt stuff, but we're probably going to laugh most of our way to that.

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:18]:
Yeah. This has been one of our most planned for. Since the beginning of Am I Doing this Right. We've been talking about having you guys on this show, just so you know. So not to put pressure on you, but this has been long anticipated.

Ryan [00:00:30]:
Deliver.

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:31]:
Hey.

Leslie Johnston [00:00:31]:
They were supposed to. Their episode was actually supposed to air last week, but then something happened.

Ryan [00:00:37]:
Yeah. Yeah, A lot. Tooth. And when I say lost the tooth, I mean it fully fell off. I have a pic. I actually have it, but my one of a dog I was babysitting ate it.

Leslie Johnston [00:00:49]:
What?

Morgan May Treuil [00:00:50]:
Wait, I didn't hear that part of the story.

Ryan [00:00:52]:
Fallon and Riker's dog. I was babysitting their wiener dog and she got up on my bed and got it off my nightstand and.

Leslie Johnston [00:01:00]:
No.

Morgan May Treuil [00:01:00]:
And ate it.

Brandie [00:01:01]:
What did the dentist say?

Ryan [00:01:04]:
Well, tooth fairy tales. I didn't really talk to the dentist about it. We were talking about bigger issues. Like the tooth.

Leslie Johnston [00:01:12]:
Yeah. Like getting.

Ryan [00:01:13]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:01:13]:
How. How did the tooth come out? I missed that part.

Ryan [00:01:15]:
It just came because I'm getting veneers.

Morgan May Treuil [00:01:17]:
Right. Okay.

Ryan [00:01:18]:
And so they do temporaries, which are just, you know, kind of like, you know, it's like a Lee press on nail for your teeth. Yeah, just like that.

Morgan May Treuil [00:01:26]:
Not super well put in.

Ryan [00:01:28]:
One of them wasn't seated. You know, for all you dental experts out there, seated correctly. And so it fell off.

Leslie Johnston [00:01:35]:
We just get a text last week. They're supposed to come on the podcast. Like it's like two hours before. And Ryan sends a picture of her tooth in her hand.

Ryan [00:01:42]:
Yes. Which I don't know if we have like the pop up thing, but I'll send you a picture. You can put it in the notes, drop it in the chat for people.

Morgan May Treuil [00:01:51]:
To see the show.

Ryan [00:01:54]:
Notes for Rock have Y'all Murder podcast. It's like maps and like extra stuff in the show. Notes.

Morgan May Treuil [00:02:01]:
Have you all had dreams before about your teeth falling out? Like, is that a recurring? You've never had that before.

Leslie Johnston [00:02:08]:
It's just a real life nightmare.

Morgan May Treuil [00:02:09]:
It actually says something about like. So there are certain dreams that if you have them, it says something about your emotional state. So like, any dreams about teeth falling out indicate that you have like a Lot of anxiety and stress.

Brandie [00:02:20]:
But like, people that don't, just like.

Morgan May Treuil [00:02:22]:
Normal people who have no veneers will.

Leslie Johnston [00:02:25]:
Still have dreams that dream that your teeth have fallen out.

Ryan [00:02:27]:
I've never. I've never even heard of it.

Morgan May Treuil [00:02:29]:
Do you have recurring dreams about anything?

Leslie Johnston [00:02:31]:
Ryan's pretty relaxed. I feel like, you know me, Brandie. I could see having a TV stress.

Brandie [00:02:39]:
I dream every single night. Me too.

Morgan May Treuil [00:02:41]:
Different things or sometimes the same thing.

Ryan [00:02:43]:
Hardly dream?

Brandie [00:02:44]:
No, it's different things. I wish I didn't because I think that maybe I don't sleep as well. Yeah, like, I'm pretty sure I dream every night. Tell you what, I couldn't like, repeat.

Ryan [00:02:59]:
What I would have dreamt about.

Morgan May Treuil [00:03:00]:
You can't remember it last night, but.

Brandie [00:03:01]:
Like, I know when I wake up, like, I'll have a moment, but then like, as the day goes on, I don't really remember.

Leslie Johnston [00:03:05]:
Do you ever have a dream where you wake up and you're kind of upset? Not like crying, but you're like, oh, I feel really off. And I know that it's the dream I had totally, but you can't really remember it or have you ever had.

Brandie [00:03:16]:
A dream where you're like, can I just go back to sleep and keep living that reality?

Ryan [00:03:20]:
And you dream like that so hard.

Leslie Johnston [00:03:21]:
You, like, go back and do it. Go back and then you can.

Brandie [00:03:23]:
Oh, loving that life.

Morgan May Treuil [00:03:25]:
Let me get back to that.

Ryan [00:03:26]:
Sometimes like that. But I don't remember what they're about.

Brandie [00:03:29]:
Up and it's like, oh, I got it. That wasn't real. And it's like, taken me a minute to like realize that wasn't real. No one else knew about it. You know what I mean? Totally.

Morgan May Treuil [00:03:39]:
Or if someone like, did you dirty or like, was just like weird. And then you wake up and you see them in real life and you're just like, oh, I hate them right now.

Leslie Johnston [00:03:48]:
It took me a while to get over it.

Morgan May Treuil [00:03:50]:
Especially if it's someone that like, actually isn't in your regular circle. Like, you're just like. You see them at work and you're just like, so much bitterness.

Brandie [00:03:58]:
Did you know that dream happened? Like, you know about it too?

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:01]:
Or are you sorry or not?

Leslie Johnston [00:04:03]:
I feel like.

Brandie [00:04:03]:
Do you know what you did?

Leslie Johnston [00:04:04]:
Yes.

Ryan [00:04:04]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:05]:
I want you to apologize, cuz you could have done it.

Ryan [00:04:07]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:04:08]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:08]:
I feel like Ryan would maybe would have this. Do you have dreams, Ryan?

Ryan [00:04:12]:
Not many.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:13]:
I have dreams sometimes in real life.

Ryan [00:04:15]:
I've got some dreams.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:17]:
This makes me sound like I'm obsessed with celebrities, but I'll have dreams where Like, I meet a celebrity.

Ryan [00:04:23]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:23]:
And I'm like, I got to take a picture. Cuz in my dream, I'm like, I know I'm in a dream, but I'm like, if I just take a picture, I can show people in real life that I met them. And then I wake up and I'm like, where's that dang picture?

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:35]:
That's so the consciousness that you'd have.

Leslie Johnston [00:04:39]:
It's like a weird, like, oh, no, no. Before this ends, I got to get a picture.

Ryan [00:04:43]:
Totally.

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:44]:
That's awesome.

Ryan [00:04:44]:
I would. Yeah. Dreams sound fun. I don't have many of them. Got nothing else.

Brandie [00:04:51]:
Shoot.

Ryan [00:04:52]:
I'm not delivering.

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:52]:
No, you're delivering.

Ryan [00:04:53]:
Promise.

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:54]:
Brandie and Ryan, thank you guys so much for taking the time to come on.

Ryan [00:04:57]:
Yes. Oh, gosh.

Brandie [00:04:58]:
We're so happy.

Morgan May Treuil [00:04:58]:
You guys are so fun. We're so excited to be here that you're here. So we start this podcast in a pretty traditional way. Traditional to us. We do an unpopular opinion. But I won't have you go there just yet. First, give us, like, the brief synopsis of who you are and what life is like. You can go as in depth as you want to, but we'll get into it later too.

Morgan May Treuil [00:05:17]:
So you can go one at a time or together, however you want.

Brandie [00:05:20]:
You want to go first?

Ryan [00:05:21]:
No, but we were on an event before this, and you kept making me go first, and I was like.

Brandie [00:05:26]:
Because I know that I talk more than you, so I'm trying to be conscious of, like, not taking over. Like, I say to myself, brandietalk less because.

Ryan [00:05:33]:
No, because then I just get to interject and be like, a couple zingers.

Brandie [00:05:37]:
Yeah. Wow.

Ryan [00:05:38]:
The crowd zinger.

Morgan May Treuil [00:05:41]:
The zingers.

Ryan [00:05:42]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:05:43]:
Okay, well, so I'm Brandie. I am. I've been married for 27 years.

Morgan May Treuil [00:05:48]:
Awesome.

Brandie [00:05:49]:
You know, as Ryan likes to call me. I was a child bride.

Ryan [00:05:51]:
She got engaged at 18, married at 19.

Morgan May Treuil [00:05:54]:
Oh, my God.

Leslie Johnston [00:05:55]:
That actually is crazy.

Ryan [00:05:56]:
Brandie.

Brandie [00:05:58]:
I'm borderline cold.

Ryan [00:05:59]:
Yeah, it's just a one husband, so.

Brandie [00:06:02]:
Yeah, so we're good. And Dustin's only like two years, or he's three years older than me.

Ryan [00:06:07]:
I just can't.

Leslie Johnston [00:06:07]:
I can imagine Brandie, like, 18 years old. She's got her safety shirt on.

Ryan [00:06:13]:
I'm so mad because I'm in college, and I'm like, why do you have.

Brandie [00:06:15]:
A safety shirt on?

Ryan [00:06:17]:
Like, no one's gonna. That's. Dude.

Brandie [00:06:19]:
You guys.

Ryan [00:06:20]:
Oh, my God.

Leslie Johnston [00:06:22]:
It'd be too long to explain what that is. Yeah, it would be.

Brandie [00:06:26]:
So I have four kids. And we all go to church together, which is super fun. And my oldest child is about to get married, so getting married in a main. Older than I was. She's not a child bride, and Ryan and I are sisters, and we're in business together. We have a business called Home Sort. So that takes up a lot of our time. You know when someone wants you to tell them about yourself, and all of a sudden you're like.

Leslie Johnston [00:06:50]:
You're like, what's about.

Morgan May Treuil [00:06:51]:
That was great.

Brandie [00:06:54]:
Boring, lame life.

Morgan May Treuil [00:06:55]:
That was great. That's not a boring, lame life at all.

Brandie [00:06:58]:
Thank you.

Leslie Johnston [00:06:58]:
You have it all.

Morgan May Treuil [00:06:58]:
That's so things. That's perfect.

Ryan [00:07:02]:
Well, I'm Ryan and I'm the younger sister, and I got married at a normal age of 22.

Leslie Johnston [00:07:10]:
Still young, but. Yes, still.

Ryan [00:07:12]:
I know.

Leslie Johnston [00:07:12]:
I didn't think 22 is young.

Ryan [00:07:14]:
Yeah, I didn't think it was young at the time.

Morgan May Treuil [00:07:15]:
Not as young as 18, but.

Ryan [00:07:16]:
No, 18 is Lorna's age. That's.

Morgan May Treuil [00:07:19]:
That's crazy.

Brandie [00:07:20]:
Yeah, I know.

Ryan [00:07:20]:
That's nuts. Anyways. Yeah. But I have two. Two kids, two girls. Our husband's. Both work at the same place, Bayside, along with you guys. But most of the time, Brandie and I are working on our own business, which is Home Sort.

Ryan [00:07:34]:
We do professional organizing and luxury relocations and, you know, just try and help people get their lives together. So they. We often get asked, am I doing this rent? We say, no, but you can hire us.

Brandie [00:07:46]:
Yeah, we will help you.

Leslie Johnston [00:07:47]:
We will help you do it right.

Ryan [00:07:48]:
Yeah, that's perfect.

Morgan May Treuil [00:07:50]:
How old is Home Sort now?

Ryan [00:07:52]:
Eight years.

Brandie [00:07:53]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:07:54]:
Eight years.

Brandie [00:07:54]:
It'll be eight years. Which is a really crazy thought.

Morgan May Treuil [00:07:57]:
That is wild. Guys.

Leslie Johnston [00:07:59]:
Christine and I are the board members of.

Ryan [00:08:01]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:08:03]:
We're waiting for our board ski trip, but has it come to fruition?

Brandie [00:08:07]:
The board. There's only been a few board perks and. But a lot of laughs.

Ryan [00:08:11]:
Yeah, a lot of laughs.

Brandie [00:08:13]:
A lot of memories.

Ryan [00:08:14]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:08:15]:
Except for the very beginning when we were, like, you know, taking on the jobs that were the.

Ryan [00:08:21]:
Yeah. When we were driving to la, I actually loved that.

Leslie Johnston [00:08:24]:
I loved those ones.

Brandie [00:08:25]:
When we started, Leslie's boss was my husband, Dustin. And so we'd. Ryan and I would be on a job and we'd be like, we're not gonna get this job done in time. We were new. We, like, didn't fully understand how long it would take us to do something. We were figuring that out or something would just end up being more than we thought it was gonna be. And we'd call Leslie at work. We're like, you gotta come over here.

Brandie [00:08:44]:
She's like, I don't know. I'm like, it's fine. I already called Dustin. He said you can leave work.

Leslie Johnston [00:08:48]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:08:48]:
And so we, like, he's not gonna say anything. We're desperate.

Leslie Johnston [00:08:52]:
You have to.

Ryan [00:08:53]:
We really were desperate.

Leslie Johnston [00:08:55]:
I know. Like, what's Dustin gonna say? No.

Ryan [00:08:57]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:08:57]:
Like, we have, like, hey, I'm gone this weekend. Go to la.

Ryan [00:09:00]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:09:00]:
We're like.

Brandie [00:09:01]:
Or you want Leslie to come? Okay, great. She's coming.

Ryan [00:09:03]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:09:03]:
Grab some friends on your way out.

Brandie [00:09:04]:
Yeah, those fine business skills we were bringing to the table at the time.

Leslie Johnston [00:09:09]:
Right.

Morgan May Treuil [00:09:09]:
I want to talk about the. I mean, we. I want to talk about the origin story and all those things, too, and what it's like to work with your sister, because that's a really cool. And I'm sure. I'm sure that's a cool and hard part, too, of doing business. But before we do that, you have to tell us your unpopular opinions. That's like, your initiation into the am I doing this right? Family.

Ryan [00:09:27]:
Okay, you get to go first.

Morgan May Treuil [00:09:28]:
You can each give your own.

Ryan [00:09:29]:
I mean, let me think of, like, a really cool.

Morgan May Treuil [00:09:31]:
Let me sort.

Brandie [00:09:33]:
Yeah, well, if you're thinking, I know what mine is.

Ryan [00:09:35]:
Okay. Go with yours.

Brandie [00:09:37]:
I can't stand Taylor Swift.

Morgan May Treuil [00:09:39]:
Oh, really?

Ryan [00:09:41]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:09:41]:
It has to be said. Wait, so I find her annoying as heck. I was so tired of hearing about her in her dumb ERAS tour, which I did go to, just by the way. It's like, I don't care about her and Travis Kelce. No one wants to hear it. I liked country. Taylor Swift.

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:00]:
Okay.

Brandie [00:10:00]:
But I find her annoying. Like, I don't care about her folklore album. Like, any of it.

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:08]:
Have you always felt smiles at the end?

Leslie Johnston [00:10:10]:
Smiles?

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:11]:
Have you always felt this way?

Brandie [00:10:13]:
No, because I liked country.

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:15]:
You were a fan in the beginning, and then I was a fan in.

Brandie [00:10:17]:
The beginning, and then I just feel like at some point it took an incredibly annoying turn.

Leslie Johnston [00:10:21]:
You know what?

Brandie [00:10:21]:
This way that people act. I, I is. Is this episode gonna be like, people are just gonna turn it off right now after hearing me say that?

Leslie Johnston [00:10:30]:
No.

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:30]:
I don't know.

Leslie Johnston [00:10:31]:
I think this is killing any chance of you guys sorting for Taylor.

Brandie [00:10:37]:
I could learn to like her fast. Although.

Leslie Johnston [00:10:40]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:10:40]:
You know how I feel about cats. And she's a cat person.

Ryan [00:10:42]:
Yeah, she is.

Morgan May Treuil [00:10:43]:
You don't like, is it.

Leslie Johnston [00:10:44]:
Okay, what about her? What about her, like, purse? What is it that annoys you where you're like, oh, this. This is, like, the thing about her personality that annoys me.

Brandie [00:10:53]:
I think she's really fake. Oh, now. So I had a family member who somehow was like, on. It was like a guitar tech or something, like, maybe on one of her tours. And they didn't have, like, the best stuff to say about her.

Ryan [00:11:06]:
Oh.

Brandie [00:11:06]:
And so this is like a very extended family member, so cannot be traced back to me, I don't think. And I don't know. She just gave me the ick. And then I probably can't say other information from other people.

Leslie Johnston [00:11:20]:
I know you guys are actually too connected.

Ryan [00:11:23]:
You don't.

Brandie [00:11:25]:
She just. I just know that would be an unpopular opinion.

Leslie Johnston [00:11:28]:
That is because people love her.

Morgan May Treuil [00:11:30]:
Like, that's the universe. Well, I think people probably feel both ways, but she has, like, a massive following.

Brandie [00:11:35]:
Oh, yeah, The Swifties.

Ryan [00:11:37]:
I don't care.

Brandie [00:11:37]:
Come at me. I literally. But also, I went to her concert. It was beautiful. It was amazing. It was wonderful. At no point when she walked out, I was like.

Ryan [00:11:46]:
And then like, crying.

Brandie [00:11:47]:
I'm like, you people need to emotionally regulate. Like, dead serious. You're like 40 and crying that she walked on the stage like, yeah, let's pull it together.

Morgan May Treuil [00:11:57]:
That is a crazy thing. Like, the whole celebrity thing of people are brought to tears by the presence of somebody.

Brandie [00:12:04]:
I don't even feel like it's slow tier. It was like, kind of scary emotional breakdown level. Like, and then everyone, like, Instagramming themselves doing it. I'm like, Instagramming themselves embarrassed right now.

Ryan [00:12:16]:
We Instagrammed ourselves at the concert because.

Brandie [00:12:18]:
It was a whole thing.

Ryan [00:12:20]:
Okay. But we still were like, oh, this is cool. Everyone wants to be here. And we're here.

Brandie [00:12:24]:
Because it was kind of.

Leslie Johnston [00:12:25]:
Yeah, I wanted to be there.

Ryan [00:12:26]:
Yeah. So we.

Brandie [00:12:27]:
Someone invited us and we went with them. And yes, we were in, like, a luxury box. It was pretty nice experience.

Leslie Johnston [00:12:33]:
But you know what's funny? My dad. So I. I like, like, I like Taylor Swift. I grew up listening to her music, all that stuff. Now when Era's tour came out, I was like, I'm not paying to go to that. That sounds so expensive. Like, I would love to go, but I just didn't like her enough to be like, oh, I'm gonna pay for this. Then her movie came out, and my dad was watching a different movie in the movie theater, and he walked past it and, like, sometimes he'll like, walk in and just like, watch a little bit of a movie.

Brandie [00:13:01]:
That's.

Morgan May Treuil [00:13:02]:
That's really funny. He.

Leslie Johnston [00:13:03]:
I love that he called me after and he's like, we gotta go see the Eras tour.

Brandie [00:13:07]:
Movie.

Leslie Johnston [00:13:07]:
He's like, I walked in for the first five minutes, jaw dropping. It was incredible. Like, she was such a performer.

Ryan [00:13:14]:
She is a good.

Leslie Johnston [00:13:16]:
And I went and saw the Eras tour movie, and I was like, this is incredible. I need to go to this. Michael had gone to the Eras tour, and I was making fun of him because he was so like, this is incredible. I'm like, yeah, you're only doing that because other people are doing it. And then I saw the movie and I was like, oh, this is. This is incredible. Here's the thing I like about Taylor Swift. I like that she doesn't have her hair done during the.

Leslie Johnston [00:13:38]:
Like, she doesn't care enough to be like, oh, I'm having, like, everything perfect and whatever. Like, she's kind of like. To me, from an outside perspective, she's kind of a girl's girl. Like, I'm not trying to be overly sexy. I'm not trying to be overly, like, produced. She's just kind of like, this is me, and I'm a free spirit. Whatever.

Brandie [00:13:58]:
She didn't redo her hair. I do remember that because it's.

Leslie Johnston [00:14:01]:
And some different. I would do my hair if I were performing. But I like that about her. But I. But you know what? Your sources are better than mine.

Ryan [00:14:09]:
So.

Brandie [00:14:10]:
And I love. Again, I loved country Taylor Swift. We get up through, like, about Speak Now. Yeah. I'm like, I am in every lyric.

Ryan [00:14:17]:
Yeah, yeah.

Brandie [00:14:19]:
Swift, maybe 1989. I was still with her then. Then after that, I'm like, all right, you annoy me.

Morgan May Treuil [00:14:24]:
I'm just impressed by someone who can produce that much. I do. I. I'm. I like. She's impressive to me. I don't have any opinions about her other than, like, I'm like, wow.

Brandie [00:14:33]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:14:33]:
You have produced.

Leslie Johnston [00:14:34]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:14:35]:
So much music. You've written so much stuff. You've sold out the largest tour. She's also really generous to her.

Leslie Johnston [00:14:44]:
To her people.

Morgan May Treuil [00:14:45]:
People like her dancers. Yeah. Like her truck driver.

Brandie [00:14:48]:
She can, like, affect economies. That's insane. That is impressive.

Ryan [00:14:52]:
And she can't affect an election, so she can't affect that much.

Brandie [00:14:57]:
True that. That is true.

Leslie Johnston [00:14:59]:
Ryan, I want to know what your opinion is.

Ryan [00:15:02]:
Oh, gosh, I've got a lot.

Brandie [00:15:05]:
I gave you all that time.

Ryan [00:15:06]:
What were you doing? And I was thinking. But then I wanted to hop in about Taylor.

Leslie Johnston [00:15:10]:
She has some zingers.

Morgan May Treuil [00:15:11]:
What are you doing?

Ryan [00:15:12]:
Cause I do. I actually do and don't like Taylor at the same time. I do like so much of her music. I do like that she, like, fought for her rights. But then we also know a bunch of stuff about that. So I'm like, wait a second. I don't know. I'm torn on her.

Ryan [00:15:28]:
I do think her and Travis Kelsey are annoying. I think he's annoying. It's like, what is happening? I don't get it. Like, I don't.

Leslie Johnston [00:15:37]:
Better than the 1975 guy, though.

Ryan [00:15:39]:
Oh, I have an unpopular opinion. Timothy Chalamet. What the freaking heck? Little Timmy. Yeah. My husband called him Tim Chalamet, and I was like, tim? There's nothing less. Less of a Tim than Timothy Chalamet. You know what I mean? Like, he's such a Timothy.

Leslie Johnston [00:15:57]:
Okay. I love Timothee Chalamet.

Ryan [00:15:59]:
He's just so, like, scrawny.

Brandie [00:16:01]:
Totally put him in any role where he has to physically fight. He weighs a buck 20. Like, what's happening?

Ryan [00:16:08]:
He's gonna beat Austin Butler, who I think is kind of a smoke show.

Leslie Johnston [00:16:11]:
I think he's kind of attractive in Dune. I don't know what it is.

Brandie [00:16:14]:
Little Timmy. Now weasel.

Morgan May Treuil [00:16:16]:
A little Timmy.

Ryan [00:16:17]:
That's what I call him.

Brandie [00:16:18]:
I can't get past it.

Leslie Johnston [00:16:19]:
Okay. One of our friends thinks that are all the old celebrities that we used to think are, like, really attractive. It was like, you know how everyone's like, oh, a golden retriever. Like, that's like, they're a golden retriever type guy. She's like, the new thing is, if.

Brandie [00:16:32]:
You even say chihuahua.

Morgan May Treuil [00:16:36]:
Like, all people that we like look like rodents. They're rodent reminiscent in their face.

Ryan [00:16:41]:
I see why, like, a high schooler who weighs 90 pounds would, like him. Like, adult women who are like, I am into him. I'm like, okay, I'm not into Timothy.

Leslie Johnston [00:16:50]:
Chalamet, but I, like, can see it.

Ryan [00:16:52]:
You're telling me you're gonna put someone like a Chris Hemsworth or a Brad Pitt against.

Morgan May Treuil [00:16:58]:
He's a totally different version like that. That's what's crazy. Like, we've evolved from, like, Brad Pitts, Chris Hemsworth, those kind of people, to, like, Timothy Chalamet is the current heartthrob. And you're like, wow.

Ryan [00:17:11]:
I know. Who else?

Leslie Johnston [00:17:14]:
Not in June. Yes.

Brandie [00:17:15]:
Like, he's cute, but, like, right now, he's got, like, a soul patch. I'm like, no.

Leslie Johnston [00:17:19]:
Yeah. Timothy outside of the shooting is not it.

Brandie [00:17:24]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:17:25]:
And except I will say he was at Coachella with Kylie.

Ryan [00:17:29]:
I saw. Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:17:30]:
And you know what's cute is he's got, like, the dad. He's carrying the backpack with the waters in it. And I was like, for her kids.

Brandie [00:17:37]:
Because that's weight training, Leslie.

Ryan [00:17:40]:
Oh, they were there later. It's weight train training.

Morgan May Treuil [00:17:43]:
Weight training.

Ryan [00:17:45]:
So true. That was a good one.

Leslie Johnston [00:17:47]:
Do you like Timothy Chaumat? Because I feel like you kind of like the serial killer.

Morgan May Treuil [00:17:50]:
I do, I do. But I'm. I'm also not like. Like, to me, like, the whole, like, Chris Hemsworth, Brad Pitt thing. Like, that missed me. Like, I. I never looked people like that and thought, like, oh, heartthrob. Like, I always looked at more like the Timothy.

Morgan May Treuil [00:18:02]:
Timothy. Shalom, Morgan.

Brandie [00:18:03]:
You're too young for Legends of the Fall. Brad Pitt. Or like, meet Joe Black. Brad Pitt.

Morgan May Treuil [00:18:08]:
I have seen me Joe Black. My mom loved me Joe Black, but I wasn't attracted to him. And meet Joe Black.

Leslie Johnston [00:18:14]:
See, I don't think.

Ryan [00:18:15]:
I agree.

Leslie Johnston [00:18:15]:
I don't think, like, who's yours? Who's your ultimate celebrity crush?

Brandie [00:18:23]:
What?

Ryan [00:18:23]:
Yeah, who's yours?

Leslie Johnston [00:18:24]:
Chris Hemsworth is like the ultimate Hemsworth.

Brandie [00:18:26]:
The Rock.

Ryan [00:18:27]:
Brandie likes. Would you stop?

Morgan May Treuil [00:18:30]:
Do you like the Rock? No.

Ryan [00:18:32]:
She told me, I promise you this one time, she told me that that was her favorite actor.

Morgan May Treuil [00:18:37]:
And I was like, yes.

Brandie [00:18:38]:
I didn't say that.

Ryan [00:18:40]:
He does acting.

Leslie Johnston [00:18:42]:
I love the Rock.

Brandie [00:18:44]:
I said I liked him in something. Ryan's never let it die. And she brings it up anytime we talk about actors, that my favorite is the Rock. And I just laugh at it because I can't even argue with her because she.

Ryan [00:18:52]:
I know.

Brandie [00:18:53]:
You said it.

Ryan [00:18:54]:
You like, like a big blockbuster, box office smash, you know?

Brandie [00:18:59]:
I do love.

Ryan [00:19:00]:
You're not gonna go, like, see an indie film, you know?

Morgan May Treuil [00:19:03]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:19:04]:
See, I don't think Chris Hemsworth is like, he wouldn't be for me. Like, oh, that's my celebrity crush. But, like, a Glen Powell would be now.

Brandie [00:19:11]:
I do. Like, I think I really just like Thor.

Morgan May Treuil [00:19:14]:
Yes.

Brandie [00:19:15]:
You know what I mean? Like, you guys know I loved Thor, but Brad Pitt was the heartthrob of us growing up.

Ryan [00:19:20]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:19:20]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:19:21]:
So, like, it's funny. It's like if you loved someone at, like, 17, always in your mind, you perpetually see them as you did.

Morgan May Treuil [00:19:27]:
It's like.

Brandie [00:19:32]:
Oh, yeah.

Ryan [00:19:33]:
No, I don't like Justin Timberlake.

Brandie [00:19:35]:
I know things about it.

Ryan [00:19:36]:
Like, cried obsessed with him.

Brandie [00:19:38]:
You were about Justin Timberlake.

Ryan [00:19:40]:
Like, people are about Taylor crowd recently.

Morgan May Treuil [00:19:43]:
Wait, Justin Timber. Like, when he was like, in his music.

Ryan [00:19:46]:
Yeah. In sync.

Morgan May Treuil [00:19:47]:
In sync.

Ryan [00:19:48]:
I was. Yeah. Like you were. I've journal entries where I'm like, God, why have you given me these feelings if they're not. If we're not meant to be together.

Brandie [00:19:56]:
She does. She has the journal entries.

Ryan [00:19:58]:
My husband reads them. And I was like, praise God.

Morgan May Treuil [00:20:01]:
I'm not giving me these feelings if I can't act.

Brandie [00:20:04]:
Just like she did.

Ryan [00:20:05]:
Like, crying out to God about it.

Brandie [00:20:07]:
Like, this was from you.

Ryan [00:20:08]:
I was like, this is meant. I truly believed it. One of my friends started to like him and I was like, how dare you?

Brandie [00:20:15]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:20:18]:
Like you could have a lance. Yeah. Circling back to Timmy, if he was like 6:2 and like, thin and, you know, gaunt like he is, I'd like that. But he's not. He'd be like, the same.

Morgan May Treuil [00:20:34]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:20:34]:
I can't take that. I need you to be excel in something.

Leslie Johnston [00:20:39]:
I heard super smart, though. And he's like, what do I care about that? And he's really nice to people.

Brandie [00:20:46]:
I. I do, like, like him as a person, but like him as, like, a heartthrob. I'm like.

Ryan [00:20:52]:
And I think he's a good. A good actor.

Morgan May Treuil [00:20:54]:
Yeah. Yeah, he's a great actor.

Ryan [00:20:56]:
Yeah, he is.

Morgan May Treuil [00:20:57]:
It's just. It's funny. Like, I don't know what movie it was that perpetuated him as probably Dune, but also like, he was in Little Women, and it's like he's a heartthrob, but he's also not. It's like a. It's like a younger kid movie. It's just funny. It's interesting. It's crazy to see where we've come because you went from like, the Brad Pitts who were, like, universally attractive.

Ryan [00:21:17]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:21:17]:
So now everyone is like an interesting attractive.

Ryan [00:21:20]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:21:21]:
Like, not typical. Whatever.

Brandie [00:21:23]:
I think we grew up of like, boy next door attractive.

Morgan May Treuil [00:21:26]:
Yes.

Leslie Johnston [00:21:26]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:21:26]:
Like, if you look at them, it's like their facial structure is nice. Like, they weren't attractive for their personality. They were just good looking.

Morgan May Treuil [00:21:32]:
Yes.

Ryan [00:21:33]:
Did have a good personality.

Leslie Johnston [00:21:34]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:21:35]:
He was charming.

Morgan May Treuil [00:21:36]:
He was all of it.

Brandie [00:21:36]:
I mean, I don't know that now that Angelina Jolie would say that, but.

Morgan May Treuil [00:21:39]:
Yeah. You know, we didn't know that or anybody.

Leslie Johnston [00:21:42]:
Yeah, I know. I feel like Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt. Were they like the couple. Like, how Justin and they were Justin Haley.

Brandie [00:21:49]:
Pretty much anybody with Brad Pitt. Because, like, even him and Gwyneth Paltrow.

Morgan May Treuil [00:21:53]:
That was like, oh, yeah, I cut.

Ryan [00:21:54]:
My hair like that, you guys. They had matching haircuts.

Morgan May Treuil [00:21:57]:
You did?

Brandie [00:21:57]:
She did do her.

Ryan [00:21:58]:
And I like my hair exactly like them. And it was really cute.

Morgan May Treuil [00:22:01]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:22:01]:
And I was like, I want to be them.

Morgan May Treuil [00:22:03]:
That was the cool.

Brandie [00:22:04]:
They were so it couple.

Ryan [00:22:05]:
They're like both of these jaw lines that were just. Oh, my gosh. That was.

Morgan May Treuil [00:22:08]:
That's so funny.

Ryan [00:22:10]:
Let's do that again.

Morgan May Treuil [00:22:11]:
Wow, these are so good, you guys, if you have a strong opinion about one of these things and you're listening to this, then your strong opinions are welcome here. Because this is.

Ryan [00:22:20]:
I've learned who is attractive. Who's like a celebrity that's attractive right now. Like, undeniably attractive. Yeah, undeniably attractive.

Brandie [00:22:29]:
I think he's boy next.

Ryan [00:22:30]:
He's been around for a long time, you guys. And we just slept on him for a long time.

Leslie Johnston [00:22:34]:
He had a glow up. He was not attractive before. Yeah, he's gonna watch that Netflix movie that he's in. I forget the name of it.

Ryan [00:22:41]:
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

Morgan May Treuil [00:22:43]:
He went to high school with my cousin Glenn Powell did. Yeah, he's from Austin, but I don't remember seeing him in anything until you.

Ryan [00:22:50]:
Go back and start watching. And. Yeah, if you go back and like, oh, my gosh, he was in that.

Morgan May Treuil [00:22:54]:
Wow.

Ryan [00:22:55]:
Yes.

Leslie Johnston [00:22:55]:
He's always like, the weird friend.

Brandie [00:22:57]:
Completely.

Ryan [00:22:57]:
Like.

Leslie Johnston [00:23:00]:
Who'S the guy from Parks and Rec?

Ryan [00:23:03]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:23:04]:
Chris Pratt on Parks and Rec is.

Ryan [00:23:06]:
Rough, but I still don't think Pratt now was very attractive.

Morgan May Treuil [00:23:09]:
See, and I like Chris Pratt in Parks and Rec more than I like Chris Pratt. Feel like it's like, I. I don't know.

Brandie [00:23:16]:
Morgan, that's something interesting.

Morgan May Treuil [00:23:17]:
So you're talking about. You're talking about Chris Hemsworth and Thor, and I'm like, I always loved Loki. Like, I thought that Loki was. That's so crazy.

Ryan [00:23:29]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:23:29]:
He is attractive, you know, because he's.

Morgan May Treuil [00:23:35]:
Tall and he's tall and he's still built. He's just a different.

Brandie [00:23:38]:
Yeah, he is.

Ryan [00:23:39]:
Yeah. But I like tall and thin.

Morgan May Treuil [00:23:41]:
Yes.

Ryan [00:23:41]:
So I get what you're saying. That one makes sense.

Leslie Johnston [00:23:43]:
You guys, Morgan is not allowed in the conversation of celebrity crushes because yours are always like, quote from Morgan. I just feel like I'm attracted to serial killers.

Morgan May Treuil [00:23:54]:
But, like, in. In movies, like, there's all.

Ryan [00:23:56]:
But.

Morgan May Treuil [00:23:56]:
But honestly, though, like, when they make movies about serial killers, they are attractive people.

Ryan [00:24:00]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:24:01]:
Like, they're meant to draw you in. Like, Zach Efron plays Ted Bundy, and you're like, who wouldn't? You know what I'm saying? No wonder this affected so many people.

Ryan [00:24:10]:
Speaking of Zac Efron, do you guys think he's attractive now after all this work?

Morgan May Treuil [00:24:14]:
I do, but I also think partially it's the loyalty of, like, I was with Troy Bolton, and I will never not be with Troy.

Ryan [00:24:22]:
Yes.

Leslie Johnston [00:24:22]:
I will say it's like you can see through all of the, like, overly muscular.

Brandie [00:24:27]:
You're just looking at him and remembering.

Leslie Johnston [00:24:28]:
What he used to look like. I wish he would not bulk up so much because I feel like guys are a little more attractive.

Brandie [00:24:34]:
Whoever did his jaw did.

Ryan [00:24:36]:
They did him dirty.

Leslie Johnston [00:24:37]:
Dirty.

Morgan May Treuil [00:24:39]:
Wow.

Ryan [00:24:39]:
Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Can we talk about how we want a High School Musical reunion.

Morgan May Treuil [00:24:43]:
Yes. So bad you think they would ever do it?

Ryan [00:24:45]:
I. I will contribute to a GoFundMe that's also.

Leslie Johnston [00:24:51]:
A couple stood the test of times.

Morgan May Treuil [00:24:54]:
Wait, they should do gofundmes for revivals or reunions. Yes. You know how much money people would give? 100, like, grassroots effort, Friends, reunion, all kinds of stuff. I would foot.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:08]:
Foot.

Morgan May Treuil [00:25:09]:
I would foot so many Bill. Not that I had them. I wouldn't fit. I'd put any bills, for sure.

Ryan [00:25:12]:
I would put people's worth of a bill.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:15]:
Yeah. I would throw you.

Ryan [00:25:18]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:25:19]:
I think we all love nostalgia.

Ryan [00:25:21]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:25:21]:
Like, to remember something, and we remember it, like, with such fondness. It's like we want to bring that feeling back.

Morgan May Treuil [00:25:26]:
Yep. You want to see what your characters are doing now.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:30]:
I will say, though, like, the office, they talk about, they'll never bring it back for reunion, no matter how many, like, articles come out about it. Because Steve curls, like, it was such a. Like, a moment in time that was perfect for the Office.

Brandie [00:25:43]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:43]:
And he said we couldn't do the jokes. We.

Ryan [00:25:46]:
Oh.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:48]:
Get away with a lot of stuff that actually was perfect for that time in that. That time period. So he's like, I wouldn't bring it back because it would ruin it. Like.

Morgan May Treuil [00:25:56]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:25:57]:
It's supposed to end on that note.

Morgan May Treuil [00:25:59]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:25:59]:
Yeah. Even the last season, it was like, oof. This is.

Leslie Johnston [00:26:02]:
I can't watch loss.

Ryan [00:26:03]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:03]:
No, just.

Ryan [00:26:04]:
It's rough.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:04]:
Yeah. They just took such a specific.

Ryan [00:26:06]:
But I do feel like we could bring back High School Musical.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:09]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:26:10]:
In there with some new tunes. Totally. Darren with his dance group.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:17]:
He's on, like.

Brandie [00:26:18]:
He's like, Disney. I know.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:19]:
Yes. He's still making stuff happen.

Ryan [00:26:21]:
Wow.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:21]:
Guys, this is. This is good stuff.

Leslie Johnston [00:26:23]:
This is good stuff.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:24]:
We're solving problems.

Ryan [00:26:28]:
Yes. Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:26:29]:
We bring you guys on a lot more often than just, like, shoot the brain.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:32]:
Shoot the breeze, we'll call it.

Leslie Johnston [00:26:33]:
Am I doing this right? Shooting the breeze.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:35]:
Breeze.

Brandie [00:26:35]:
You know, we love to shoot the breeze.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:37]:
Shoot the breeze. I love that.

Brandie [00:26:39]:
Love it.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:39]:
Okay, so take us back. Take us back eight years, honestly. Well, actually, one more thing. You're siblings. You also have another sister.

Ryan [00:26:47]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:47]:
Shannon, what's the birth order?

Brandie [00:26:49]:
I'm the middle. Ryan's the baby.

Ryan [00:26:51]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:51]:
Shan's the oldest, and Shan's the oldest.

Brandie [00:26:53]:
Okay.

Morgan May Treuil [00:26:54]:
Do you guys feel like you fall into the typical middle child, youngest child personality stereotype?

Brandie [00:27:03]:
I think 100.

Ryan [00:27:04]:
I think so. A little bit sometimes. Shannon, our oldest, she's gotten a little bit, like, quieter. Not. I don't want to say meeker, because she's not meek, but she's gotten a little, like, whatever.

Morgan May Treuil [00:27:16]:
Okay.

Ryan [00:27:16]:
As she's gotten older and Brandiee's gotten more like.

Leslie Johnston [00:27:20]:
Brandiee gives old knuckle. Yeah.

Ryan [00:27:22]:
Like. Yeah, knuckle. You know what I mean? Like, it's. And so. But in general, yes.

Brandie [00:27:32]:
Well, it's interesting because we're all actually individually. Like, we will take charge. Like, we will be leaders of something.

Ryan [00:27:40]:
Blah, blah, blah.

Brandie [00:27:41]:
But then you get us all together. Together, we fall on our birth order. Like, if we ever think we're gonna be in the car together and Shannon's not driving, we have another thing coming. Like, she won't have it. Like, we don't plan Easter menu without calling Shannon because there's no point, because she'll override whatever we decide we're gonna do. Like, she'll come and work for us sometimes. And on a work job, like, we're.

Ryan [00:28:03]:
Very much in charge, like an oldest in the sense of, okay, here's what you're doing today. Here's what you're doing. We're all doing this itinerary because she's more like. She knows what she's doing, but she doesn't care to, like, make us do. Like, if we're on a vacation, I'm the one that's, like, planning the itineraries.

Morgan May Treuil [00:28:18]:
Which is funny, because that's not typical for a youngest child.

Leslie Johnston [00:28:21]:
On the one hand, I would say. I would say it's.

Morgan May Treuil [00:28:24]:
You're like. I guess. Yeah. You're like, I want to do what I want to do.

Ryan [00:28:26]:
I'm just saying what I want to do.

Leslie Johnston [00:28:28]:
To me, the youngest is typically, like.

Ryan [00:28:30]:
Like, yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:28:31]:
The more carefree. Like, in a family birth order, typically, I feel like the youngest is more like, carefree, fun. So then it would make sense, like, what's happening on the trip.

Brandie [00:28:42]:
Yeah, yeah.

Ryan [00:28:44]:
I don't want to, like, decide how we're gonna get there and all those things. I want to pick out what spa treatments we're doing.

Morgan May Treuil [00:28:49]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine.

Ryan [00:28:51]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:28:51]:
I think in our work environment, if there's, like, something where I just, like, take over and take charge and say, we're doing it this way. If Ryan has a super strong opinion, she'll like, maybe buck against that. But sometimes she's like, I don't care. You've, like, bossed me around our whole lives. Like, in some ways, like, we will fully fall into birth order. Like, if we're in a situation where Shannon decides she's in charge and she's pulling, like, oldest sibling rank, we don't even care. Argue it, because it's like, oh, we grew up with this. You know, I don't know how it works in families where it's like, boys and girls.

Brandie [00:29:24]:
Like, we just had girls. And so in some ways, we are very.

Morgan May Treuil [00:29:27]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:29:28]:
Locked into our roles. But then, like, because we all kind of, like, will work together sometimes, like, Shannon will come, like, sometimes on trips with us or do, like, big projects with us. And in those environments, she's totally not the oldest sibling. I would say I more act like the oldest sibling.

Ryan [00:29:44]:
Yeah. But that's in a work environment. She always will do things like, okay, I'm gonna go do this job, and I'm gonna be fully in charge of myself. And I'm totally. It's not like, hey, Brandie, what can I do? I don't think she's ever.

Brandie [00:29:55]:
No, she, like, likes to be in charge of lunch.

Ryan [00:29:57]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:29:57]:
She always has to drive. Even on work jobs, if the twins aren't there. If we go on work trips and we're with Christy and Leslie or our sister Shannon, one of the three of them is always the driver, so they feel strongly about it. They care about driving. And when we go with the twins, Ryan and I are like, we don't have to figure out where we're going to lunch.

Leslie Johnston [00:30:14]:
How do we get there?

Brandie [00:30:15]:
Because they do it.

Leslie Johnston [00:30:16]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:30:16]:
That's nice.

Leslie Johnston [00:30:17]:
Brandiee lets us have lunch.

Ryan [00:30:18]:
I was gonna say she's not got her tuna and eggs and.

Morgan May Treuil [00:30:23]:
Yeah, tuna and eggs.

Ryan [00:30:25]:
Oh, so gross.

Leslie Johnston [00:30:26]:
This one trip to la, we're gonna get into your business in just a second. But we went on this trip to la. The whole trip. Ryan and I and Christy have planned out, like, this trip was. Yes. About home, sort. But it was about going to this Mexican restaurant.

Brandie [00:30:43]:
No. You guys care that much about it? How pretty. So false.

Morgan May Treuil [00:30:47]:
What was it called? What was the Mexican place?

Leslie Johnston [00:30:49]:
What is it called?

Ryan [00:30:50]:
It's like an LA establishment. It's just. Just. I just love. We've loved it for, like, our whole lives, for when we started going there from, like, as teenagers. And it's like, our whole family loves it. Not. Maybe Brandiee least loves it because she didn't come to visit me in LA very much.

Ryan [00:31:08]:
But Shannon, my mom, we all love it.

Morgan May Treuil [00:31:11]:
Y'all love it.

Ryan [00:31:12]:
And Christine, Leslie, love food.

Morgan May Treuil [00:31:13]:
Yes.

Ryan [00:31:14]:
And so I'm like, okay, this is going to be our treat at the end of a long, very long work day. And so we're driving. What were we on? I don't know. We're on, like, the 210 or on something. And we're like, okay, we just gotta go on this. This little detour.

Morgan May Treuil [00:31:30]:
Yes.

Ryan [00:31:31]:
Maybe 15 minutes.

Brandie [00:31:33]:
There's no way it was only 15 minutes.

Ryan [00:31:37]:
We just had to go to Ventura from Pasadena.

Brandie [00:31:40]:
It was.

Ryan [00:31:40]:
Yeah, it was 15 minutes anyways. And Brandiee, what happened? Said no.

Brandie [00:31:46]:
No.

Ryan [00:31:47]:
Said no. All of us. I mean, the car went silent. Oh.

Brandie [00:31:51]:
She said, I didn't read the room.

Leslie Johnston [00:31:54]:
It wasn't even, like, we're gonna go through an in and out. We're going to a grocery store.

Brandie [00:32:02]:
I've never lived it down.

Ryan [00:32:04]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:32:04]:
Which actually, now I love Whole Foods for dinner. So I think I would have been excited back then, but at the moment, it was like I wanted.

Morgan May Treuil [00:32:11]:
It was crush.

Brandie [00:32:12]:
I'm sorry, you guys, because I did not read it right now.

Leslie Johnston [00:32:15]:
Who was right in the situation? Actually might have been Brandiee, because we then had to Dr. 8 hours to go home, and it was already dark.

Morgan May Treuil [00:32:21]:
Oh, my God.

Leslie Johnston [00:32:22]:
She was right.

Ryan [00:32:23]:
That would have given us those pintobies, would have given us the stamina.

Brandie [00:32:29]:
I do remember the silence of the car. And it's like, you know when, like, it's gone there and you can't go back.

Leslie Johnston [00:32:34]:
Can't go back.

Brandie [00:32:35]:
We were too locked in. It was.

Morgan May Treuil [00:32:37]:
In your partnership. What would you say are your. Like, what role do you take on? Like, what personality, work, mindset do you take on?

Ryan [00:32:45]:
She takes on every role.

Leslie Johnston [00:32:47]:
Ryan's planning the retirement I dapple in.

Morgan May Treuil [00:32:52]:
So.

Ryan [00:32:52]:
Yeah, 100% retirement. Yes.

Brandie [00:32:56]:
That's so funny. Ryan is really creative. I didn't actually know when we started, I didn't realize how creative she was. And I think, like, any skill set, like, it can grow and, like, I didn't realize, like, I think, like, as you age also, I think that you, like, lock into certain things, like when you're younger. Like, we joke all the time. Like, I get, like, not very many preferences about life. At 30.

Morgan May Treuil [00:33:22]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:33:22]:
At 45, my preferences are locked and loaded. Like, I'm not going there in that seat. I'm not flying in that seat. I'm not staying at that hotel. I'm not eating at that restaurant at 30. I was just like, I'm just thrilled to be here for the ride.

Morgan May Treuil [00:33:37]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:33:37]:
And so I think like even like I would say that like in business too, like we've like some of our like skills, like you skill sets, you kind of really lock into them. Ryan is like ultra creative. Like she's totally an ideas person.

Morgan May Treuil [00:33:51]:
I love that.

Brandie [00:33:52]:
And so if you have that, like you both can't be that. So like I've got to be the reality and logistics. So sometimes she just feels a lot more fun than me because I'm like.

Ryan [00:34:02]:
Well I like to eat on 16 hour days so that can make me seem fun.

Brandie [00:34:08]:
Ryan is fun dad. Like in work.

Ryan [00:34:10]:
Oh, I am.

Brandie [00:34:10]:
Ryan is 100% fun dad. Whenever she shows up, I'm like, why are you always the fun one? And I have to like be the adult.

Morgan May Treuil [00:34:17]:
Can you not relax until the job's done?

Ryan [00:34:21]:
Can she relax after the job?

Morgan May Treuil [00:34:24]:
Do you relax, Brainy?

Ryan [00:34:26]:
She does not relax very often.

Brandie [00:34:28]:
I am like it's. I don't know, like, I wouldn't say I'm like a major relaxer just in life. And I actually don't know where that came from cuz I haven't been that way my whole life.

Ryan [00:34:38]:
Nothing I do better than relax, truly.

Morgan May Treuil [00:34:41]:
Which probably creates such a great partnership. Because you're both looking out. No, honestly. Because you're both looking out for like different parts of the experience. And you lead people with this business too, which is a great leader. Experiences matter.

Leslie Johnston [00:34:54]:
Yes. Who's the one though that like, if you've got an angry client or there's an issue, who's taking the call?

Brandie [00:35:02]:
To be honest, I'd actually say Ryan's probably better at it because Ryan, there is something in me to like defend us.

Morgan May Treuil [00:35:10]:
Right.

Brandie [00:35:10]:
And Ryan can just like take it from somebody and not like get defensive to. It's a really great.

Morgan May Treuil [00:35:15]:
That's an art. It's like a fall on your sword.

Brandie [00:35:17]:
I'm like, I will pull out freaking receipts right now. And Ryan's like, I'm not even going to say anything. I'm going to let them vent. I'm going to let them say whatever. Like she's actually very good at that.

Morgan May Treuil [00:35:29]:
That's a customer service thing. That's like huge.

Brandie [00:35:31]:
And I'm like, oh, I'm going to prove you wrong. And I'm going to one up you.

Ryan [00:35:36]:
Charging for the phone call. And I'm like, huh? That's $400 on your bill.

Morgan May Treuil [00:35:40]:
Yeah, like I'm gonna make this last. Well, tell me one more time. How this happened.

Brandie [00:35:46]:
Yes.

Leslie Johnston [00:35:47]:
I remember Ryan. We. Because we talked about this. Because Brandiee and I are similar. If we have, like, conversation with someone, I will not get over it for, like, it takes me days to get over it. I feel like Ryan can be like, had the phone call. No.

Brandie [00:36:00]:
Shook it off, bring it up in therapy the following week. And Ryan's like, you're still thinking about that?

Ryan [00:36:06]:
I'm like, what's funny, though, is if someone bought, like, was rude to you, I would not be able to get over it, though. Like, if someone hurt my friend, I'm like, there. You know, Leslie, there are still people that are dead to me that are not dead to you, but I know something about them.

Leslie Johnston [00:36:21]:
Yeah, the loyalty.

Ryan [00:36:24]:
But I still am like, no, you're dead to me. But for a client, you know, we're gonna bill them. So Brandiee strong. And as I'm not a very good leader. She's a great leader. She doesn't like to talk about money, and she doesn't. Yeah, I like to take, like, the hard phone calls where we're gonna get ripped a new one, and I'm like, whatever.

Morgan May Treuil [00:36:47]:
Yeah, yeah.

Brandie [00:36:47]:
Ryan's like, have him call me.

Ryan [00:36:49]:
Yeah, okay.

Leslie Johnston [00:36:50]:
Wait, how did you guys tell everybody how you start? Like, how Home sore at the very beginning. How did you even, like, think to start? Because you weren't. You haven't been doing this forever. It's only been in the last eight years. So when did you guys, like, decide to start? How did you start?

Morgan May Treuil [00:37:04]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:37:05]:
Yeah. So for some reason. Oh, we were putting our kids. We wanted to put our kids in private school and super expensive. And so we're like, well, we have to. You know, our husbands are in the ministry. It's not like they've got a. You know.

Ryan [00:37:18]:
Know, I can't even think of, like, a financial fund that would be a lot of money right now. You know what I mean? Where it's like. What's that term?

Brandie [00:37:25]:
They weren't climbing corporate.

Ryan [00:37:26]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're. Yeah, they're not. They're not finance bros. So we're like, okay, we have to figure out a way to pay this. This matters to us. And so I think I just had the idea of, like, hey, we should do this.

Brandie [00:37:38]:
We're.

Ryan [00:37:39]:
We're good at that. Right? And so I asked my cousin to do it, and Brandiee was there, and she was like, wait a second. You're not asking me.

Leslie Johnston [00:37:47]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:37:47]:
And so somehow Brandie, you know, honed her way in or, you knowled, her way in, which was great. Lucky me.

Leslie Johnston [00:37:55]:
Brian's like, I'm the founder.

Brandie [00:37:56]:
Brandie, my employer, she was, it was her idea.

Ryan [00:37:59]:
I wouldn't say if there's ever like a Facebook level lawsuit. I've got so much information and articles and things that say this was really my idea.

Brandie [00:38:09]:
So suing me.

Morgan May Treuil [00:38:12]:
Where did the idea come from though? Because this is like, it's a specific kind of business.

Ryan [00:38:16]:
It's an organizing business which is needed something to do. I have a very limited skill set of things I can offer the world.

Leslie Johnston [00:38:24]:
This is a great business. Yeah, that's really cool.

Brandie [00:38:27]:
Things that I'm good at.

Leslie Johnston [00:38:29]:
They're both super humble. But like if you were to go in their houses, like not. Some people can organize because they're like, oh, I can put this in a bin. And I, I, Brandiee and Ryan are like, oh, I'm organizing with design in mind. Like you guys could design homes, you could design spaces. Like you're just so good at all of that. So honestly, it's like, how did home sort not start sooner?

Brandie [00:38:50]:
Well, I think in a business sense, Morgan, we just like started with an idea. We joke all the time that we have confidence. Like our mom raised us with such confidence. Confidence like we probably don't actually deserve because we probably don't have the skills to match. Like our level of like can do well.

Morgan May Treuil [00:39:05]:
You all have Texas size confidence.

Ryan [00:39:06]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:39:09]:
I am 100 miles.

Ryan [00:39:11]:
Thanks.

Brandie [00:39:12]:
We are literally the most beautiful, talented. The thing she said, I'm like, no, mom. Those other people, like, they're more attractive.

Ryan [00:39:18]:
And they're better than me. And she'll be like, we'll be very honest if we don't look good.

Brandie [00:39:22]:
But then she'll also be like, why aren't you wearing lipstick?

Ryan [00:39:24]:
Yeah. Or like I don't like that outfit or something. But I always say about like being like a feminist, I'm like, I never knew a woman that was like a thing like, oh, can a woman be president? I always thought if I wanted to be president, I could. I didn't know that was like a, a like someone's telling a woman they can't be president. What?

Brandie [00:39:43]:
I never felt like a male female divide.

Ryan [00:39:45]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:39:46]:
We were raised in a very southern home, like traditionally southern, which I think is really cool.

Morgan May Treuil [00:39:50]:
Cuz most people wouldn't say that they come from that. That just like our mom, we just.

Brandie [00:39:55]:
Thought if we wanted to do it, we could do it. So I would say about business, for us, it's not like we started out with like a five year plan.

Morgan May Treuil [00:40:02]:
Right.

Brandie [00:40:02]:
We started out with an idea and we're like, hey, we'll see if this works. Works. And so we would just, you know, set goals, and then we hit that goal, and then we'd get, like, we'd have success in an area that, like, we didn't see coming. So then we would just, like, you know, hop on that and try and, like, you know, fuel the fire of that success. And so I would feel like you guys are scrapping. Our business journey has looked like this. Probably like one of our greatest skill sets is that we can just start something and pull it together quickly. Probably the downfall to that is sometimes you don't think a ton of things through, but there are people that are just paralyzed and doing nothing, and they never start and they don't do anything, and they're waiting for it to be perfect.

Brandie [00:40:40]:
We've never done that. We're like, we're going to start, and we're just. While we're driving on the freeway at 100 miles an hour, we're going to figure it out.

Leslie Johnston [00:40:46]:
Yeah, we're going to build a car.

Brandie [00:40:47]:
And I would say that's been. Has mostly attributed to success for us.

Leslie Johnston [00:40:53]:
I love that. When you guys first started, was there a moment like, okay, you're scrappy, you're doing it. You're, like, moving this thing forward. You're still working your other. I remember you have another job that you did basically working two jobs to get this new business started up.

Morgan May Treuil [00:41:06]:
So it was like a side gig that you were putting energy into.

Ryan [00:41:09]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:41:10]:
But you already had a job. Okay.

Leslie Johnston [00:41:11]:
But then was there a moment towards, like, the beginning when you were like, oh, this just hit us and this was tough, like, made us want to quit? Yeah.

Brandie [00:41:19]:
Like every day.

Ryan [00:41:20]:
Yeah. Like yesterday, this morning, currently.

Leslie Johnston [00:41:26]:
But at the beginning, I think a lot of people start stuff and they. One thing goes wrong and they get discouraged, and then they're like, I'm going to quit or I'm going to.

Brandie [00:41:33]:
I think if had we not had each other, we would have quit a long time ago. Because when you're down, we know we both can't be down at the same time. So sometimes, if Ryan's really down, to be honest, I'm probably there with her, But I know that it's not good for us to both be there.

Ryan [00:41:50]:
Who do you think is down more, me or you?

Brandie [00:41:53]:
Probably me, because I think I just.

Ryan [00:41:55]:
Like, handle the finances.

Brandie [00:41:59]:
I think that naturally I'm harder on myself.

Leslie Johnston [00:42:02]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:42:02]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:42:02]:
Ryan's not actually very hard on herself.

Ryan [00:42:04]:
Really not, which is great.

Brandie [00:42:06]:
Sometimes she's like, I should probably be harder on myself. To me, I'm like, oh.

Morgan May Treuil [00:42:11]:
I'm like, I'm.

Brandie [00:42:12]:
I have such expectations for myself, so that makes me a lot harder on myself.

Morgan May Treuil [00:42:17]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:42:17]:
What's that mean? Where they're like, I took my self care too seriously, and now I'm, like, homeless and have no friends. And I was like, that's maybe me. Like, I took it too seriously. My. My me time.

Brandie [00:42:30]:
That's funny. But I think, like, in our partnership, it's like we. We both know we can't, like, stay there. And so I think when you're alone in a business, it's like, if you're low, like, who pulls you up? You know? And so, yeah, I think Brandiee called.

Ryan [00:42:43]:
Herself a loser yesterday. I was like, well, calling yourself a loser isn't going to help. Yeah, there's really not much there.

Brandie [00:42:49]:
So you won't call my sister a loser.

Ryan [00:42:51]:
Yeah. You know Brandiee that way.

Morgan May Treuil [00:42:53]:
That's good. I think, for. For people that are listening to this that are doing something, anything, whether you own your own business or you work, Work a job, you're starting something. Not everybody gets the chance to work with somebody as a partner, but everybody has the chance to get a support system in place. But that sounds like it's a huge component to not quitting, is having a support system around you.

Brandie [00:43:16]:
And I think even too, like, in how you live your life in any, like, sort of spiritual context or context of community. Like, isolation is scary, and you can be low, and maybe no one knows we're so enmeshed. You know, I remember a counselor saying once, like, really healthy relationships are like baked potatoes in a bowl. You know? You know where one starts, you know where one ends. Like, you understand boundaries, and then there's mashed potatoes in a bowl. I'd say we're probably pretty mashed potato at this point. We are whipped together. It's like there is no separation.

Brandie [00:43:47]:
That's funny. But, like, we know so much about each other that we have, like, really, I would say, like, the privilege of being in each other's life to, like, lift each other up and pull each other up in all avenues. I know there's things that literally in this world, I know I'm the only single person in this world that can talk to Ryan about it. I know that. And vice versa, you know? But also, there's no one who's gonna fight for her in a dark alley. Like, I would either, you know, vice versa. And I know, like, heads will roll if Ryan thinks someone's hurt me or you know, whatever. So I'm the partnership.

Brandie [00:44:21]:
At other. It. I'm grateful for now. Also, Leslie's probably been in the car when, like, we're arguing, and we're like, you're dead to me.

Ryan [00:44:28]:
And, oh, we have some bad fights. Yeah, some bad fights. So. Which I can get over very easily. Brandiee, on the other hand, how do you guys recover?

Morgan May Treuil [00:44:37]:
How do you recover after a fight like that?

Brandie [00:44:40]:
I. I don't know how Ryan does it. She can, like, get over things, like, in 10 seconds. If she didn't and she held on to things, we'd probably have some real problem. Problems.

Morgan May Treuil [00:44:50]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:44:50]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:44:51]:
How do you do that? I don't know.

Ryan [00:44:52]:
I mean, I don't feel like it takes you super long. It takes you longer than me, but we're just too. You don't have a choice. To get. We have to. We have to talk multiple times a day.

Leslie Johnston [00:45:03]:
Yeah. So it's like, you have to learn to just let things roll off your back.

Ryan [00:45:06]:
And it's like we all. Everyone has said things in the heat of the moment. Everyone. And there might be a. A tiny amount of truth to it. There might be no truth. Might be speaking out of anger. And I know I've done that, so I can assume Brandie's done that.

Ryan [00:45:20]:
Brandie is very literal, and I am very kind of like, oh, well, let's throw out some things, and let's be, you know, let's try a bunch of this and that. And Brandie is like, when you, you know, mention something, it's a blood oath from that point on that you've like.

Leslie Johnston [00:45:35]:
She's like, I already have a business plan. And I figured this entire life when you said it.

Brandie [00:45:39]:
Ryan's like, I just talk a lot. I'm like, nope, you said this.

Ryan [00:45:42]:
I don't talk a lot, but I do change my mind. I. I. And I know that about myself. Oh, change my mind about that. Like, I might have a straw. I used to hate the Kardashians, and now I'm like, I don't know. Maybe I'm not that bad.

Ryan [00:45:53]:
I don't know. I saw a couple videos of them. I'm like, oh, I used to say they were the problem with America, but now I'm like, wait a second. Might be they're kind of okay people.

Leslie Johnston [00:46:04]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:46:04]:
I don't know. But I can change next week.

Leslie Johnston [00:46:07]:
Yes.

Morgan May Treuil [00:46:08]:
You know what I like is because I didn't know the origin story for how you started home sort. But from the moment that I got acquainted with it, to me, it's it feels like a whole. It's more than an organizing business to me. The home sort kind of feels like a lifestyle meshed with home organization thing and then the parts that you guys both bring to it. It also feels very like I'm invested in you guys and you make it fun. Like to me it's felt like so much more than just a business. And I think that all of your followers online and the people that have gotten to do business with you probably feel the same way. So I'm encouraged to know that you started it was just sort of like a loose plan and then you let the flexibility that you have to be like, we're going to follow and put fuel to the fire of like where the success is.

Morgan May Treuil [00:46:57]:
I think a lot of people probably approach business and dreams with this very rigid approach of like, this is what I want it to be and I'm going to make it fit into this thing. But the magic of what you guys have done kind of feels like you let it be what it was going to become come and then you got on board with that. That's like, I don't know. I just feel like you've done it in such a cool, open handed way where God grew something to a degree that maybe you guys weren't even playing. Like, did you anticipate it being what it is when you started?

Brandie [00:47:25]:
No, because I don't even think we knew to anticipate.

Morgan May Treuil [00:47:27]:
Right.

Brandie [00:47:28]:
It was new to us. We like didn't even know the journey we were going on. We just have a hustle that won't stop.

Ryan [00:47:34]:
Like right.

Brandie [00:47:34]:
We can outwork anybody and so well.

Ryan [00:47:38]:
And we are good with people. Yeah. We've gotten in rooms and we've had meetings and we've gotten clients because we do, we can be.

Brandie [00:47:48]:
Yeah. We have good relationships with people and we do.

Ryan [00:47:51]:
You know, we're both easy to laugh. We can make conversation easily with people. I'm very empathetic. Brandie is like an incredible leader and like people are drawn to her. So I think think that has been a definite leg up for us. Which I say it's a leg up for the twins too. You guys are the same way. People just in general really like your company so well.

Leslie Johnston [00:48:12]:
I think people sometimes focus too much on like the business plan and less on like are people actually enjoying working with me? And are they, Is this a good experience for them? It's like we focus so much on the details because we think that's what people really care about. Which depending on your profession, that might be what they all only care about.

Brandie [00:48:30]:
But.

Leslie Johnston [00:48:30]:
But for most businesses, people care about the experience that they have with you, how it feels like people want connection. And if you're bad at connection, it's not. Your business plan's gonna fail, no matter how perfect it is.

Brandie [00:48:43]:
And I think, too, for us, it's like, there's the actual organizing that we do for people, and that is enjoyable, but then there's running a business, and the two are kind of two separate things. So I think, Morgan, like, what you're saying, like, whatever someone's doing, I think people have, like, these passions or hobbies, and they're like, oh, I just love to do. Do this thing. Maybe I'll make a business out of it. But they actually hate business.

Ryan [00:49:05]:
Right.

Brandie [00:49:05]:
That you. You come to a crossroads where you're like, it's actually more about the business than it is even is about what I'm selling.

Morgan May Treuil [00:49:11]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:49:12]:
And so I would say at this point in our life, yes, we love organizing. We love transforming spaces. To be honest. I love doing relocations for people. Like, being on site, being a part of it.

Morgan May Treuil [00:49:20]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:49:21]:
But I think I love the business part of it more than any of that. Trying something. Trying to.

Ryan [00:49:27]:
Yeah, that's been, you know, something.

Brandie [00:49:29]:
It feels good, though. But, like, through the years, we've created something where people can work with us and they can, like, make money to feed their families. Like, I feel proud of that. That what we've been able to accomplish. And we didn't come with business degrees. Like, we've just figured a lot of these business degrees. I thought it was communications.

Ryan [00:49:50]:
No, I switched because business was less. Like, it took me less time.

Morgan May Treuil [00:49:55]:
That is a really cool part of it, though. Like, you. You've built something that now involves other people. Okay, wait, but touch on that. On that genius a little bit. Like, what. What would you say are the things that people don't pay attention to while running and engaging in business that they should. So, like, what you guys said about being great with people, like, being people people, is something that people probably don't pay attention to.

Morgan May Treuil [00:50:19]:
That's like, what are the things people aren't doing that are not giving success to their business that they could be doing, and they're just not paying attention to it.

Ryan [00:50:27]:
Yeah. I mean, I think your business will always, like, rise and fall, live and die off of. It's not what you know, it's who you know great and off of, you know, your relationships with people. We would not have home sort if Brandiee didn't have so many people that she could call up and be like, hey, come help us here. You know, come help us there. We would not have home sore if we didn't treat our clients because we work with a lot of like, you know, high net worth people and people that need their, their privacy. We would not have that if we couldn't relay to our clients personally. Okay.

Ryan [00:51:01]:
You can trust us. We're gonna, this is, you know, we're gonna be very discreet and all of these things. So I think reading the room, like being a really good people person are two things that if you, if you truly don't know how to talk to people, which some people don't, you can get on like a master class and learn how to make conversation.

Morgan May Treuil [00:51:19]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:51:19]:
People.

Ryan [00:51:20]:
And I think more people should do that because, you know, it's just a skill to conversate is, is something that you didn't know you needed, but you really do need in business. Yeah. So if we. There are so many people that are just good at organizing, but that doesn't get you to the level where you are making the money you need to make and, you know, doing some of these bigger things, things that we have been able to do.

Brandie [00:51:47]:
So communication is actually a soft skill. Respond to people's text messages, email people back, be really good. I know between Ryan and I, I am just naturally more of a communicator. I'm just better at it. And there's other skills that Ryan's way better at than I am. And so I like, know that I'm going to respond faster. So then I handle most of the communication because that's important, you know. And so I think sometimes people think it's like, oh, I've gotta be good at all these, I don't know, crazy skill sets.

Brandie [00:52:21]:
But it's like you can get pretty far if you're just really good at getting back to people's emails.

Ryan [00:52:25]:
That is so true.

Morgan May Treuil [00:52:27]:
You know what I mean?

Ryan [00:52:27]:
Like, that's answer the call and you know, actually pick it up and speak to the person. Which is something that Brandie, you know, helped me with. She's like, answer the call. And I'm like, okay, I'm gonna do it.

Brandie [00:52:40]:
I think too, like, it's like our culture is interesting. It's been interesting. I feel like since we've had a business, like a lot of crazy stuff has gone in the on in the world. It's like we've gone through Covid. We've gone through like, I feel like the last, you know, since 2020, a lot of like the world has felt unsettled in a lot of ways. And so trying to like navigate like a business landscape and like an ever changing culture of like, how do we communicate, how do we stay relevant, how do we. Well.

Ryan [00:53:07]:
And how do we sell something that isn't necessary? Totally what we do is a luxury service. It is not that people can survive without an organized pantry. So how do we still make this valuable when people are struggling? And who do we speak to at this point? And so we've really had to hone in on that for sure.

Brandie [00:53:27]:
And what worked for us when we started eight years ago, what worked for us five years ago, it doesn't feel like it's even a thing now, you know. And so we're constantly evolving and changing. And Ryan's. Because she's such an ideas person, she's really good with change. I am like a little bit slower to change because I, I kind of hone in on something and I'm like, okay, we're good, we've got this here. But it's like constantly being able to just like hold things with an open hand.

Ryan [00:53:53]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:53:53]:
And to try and grow and get better and never stop learning.

Ryan [00:53:56]:
Yeah. And we just don't live in a world where if something worked once, it's going to work every single time. It's just, it's just not that way anymore. So.

Morgan May Treuil [00:54:04]:
Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:54:04]:
That's so true. Wow, that's really good.

Morgan May Treuil [00:54:06]:
That is really cool. Yeah.

Leslie Johnston [00:54:08]:
I have a light hearted question before we end. Who's been your like dream client that you've had that you can say? Because obviously I know some are, some.

Ryan [00:54:17]:
Are private, but who's the one that pays the bill?

Leslie Johnston [00:54:23]:
Who's been your absolute favorite client that you're like, oh, they. Maybe it's a celebrity that you're like. They were actually so nice and I had no idea that they would be.

Ryan [00:54:33]:
I, a friend of the podcast. Candace Cameron was one of our first celebrity clients. And she's a friend now. And I can say I trust her. She is as real and as. I really admire her.

Morgan May Treuil [00:54:49]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:54:49]:
We have been with her through some times that I am like, can. I can't believe this is. If people only knew. And she lives her life with such integrity. And so I, as a person of faith and as a Christ follower have enjoyed seeing that there's, you know, so just she has been. Now she's a really good friend. But I. That is such a pleasant surprise.

Ryan [00:55:18]:
Cause we've met people that we worked for that are celebrities where you guys. Oh, interesting. And then some of them we've loved. Some of them are just, you know, I'm not gonna say anything bad, but, you know. And she exceeded she's the best expectations and is as amazing as they come.

Brandie [00:55:36]:
I would say. One of my favorite celebrity clients is Katherine Heigl. And which is interesting because there were a lot of years where she had, like, really bad press.

Leslie Johnston [00:55:45]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:55:46]:
And people were like, she's difficult to work with. And she's all these things. And she is one of the most kind and delightful down to earth we have ever worked with. I loved her.

Ryan [00:55:56]:
Yeah. Talk about fake news. Everything about her was such fake news.

Brandie [00:56:01]:
Wow.

Ryan [00:56:01]:
And it was a smear campaign. Don't give me. Don't get me wrong.

Brandie [00:56:04]:
It was even funny because one of the things we were talking about, it was funny hearing it from her because she's like. What I actually said was this. And they took what I said and just turned it into this. And it like, gave her a bad reputation.

Leslie Johnston [00:56:16]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:56:17]:
I love her years.

Brandie [00:56:18]:
And she is.

Ryan [00:56:19]:
Is absolutely delightful inside and out.

Leslie Johnston [00:56:24]:
I can tell she's great because when I watch her on movies, I feel like it shines through. You're like, I just love her. She's just so fun.

Morgan May Treuil [00:56:31]:
I was an original gray person too. And I was like. I was like, I love her. I mean, I was.

Brandie [00:56:37]:
When Denny died, I mean. But it's funny to like, talk with.

Ryan [00:56:41]:
Her, like, as an adult.

Brandie [00:56:42]:
And I'm like, I'm literally in the closet of Izzy.

Morgan May Treuil [00:56:46]:
Izzy.

Brandie [00:56:47]:
This is.

Ryan [00:56:48]:
Yeah. Nuts.

Morgan May Treuil [00:56:48]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:56:49]:
You know?

Ryan [00:56:49]:
Yeah. She's wonderful, too. Great mom. Oh, my gosh. I love her husband. He's.

Brandie [00:56:54]:
He's.

Ryan [00:56:55]:
They are absolutely delightful.

Morgan May Treuil [00:56:56]:
That's really exciting.

Ryan [00:56:57]:
And everyone just has it so wrong. She has a great reputation now. But.

Leslie Johnston [00:57:01]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:57:01]:
Okay. I have to tell one funny story. Maybe Ryan should tell it. We were at their house. Her son who was like, he's like a little kid. And Ryan went to do something and bend over and he walked by. He, like, played drums on her rear for a minute. And Ryan was like, oh, my gosh.

Brandie [00:57:18]:
She's like, I have to go tell Catherine. Cuz I don't.

Ryan [00:57:20]:
Yeah. I don't want this to come back on me. I don't like the. Then be like, watching back the cameras one day and be like, what the.

Morgan May Treuil [00:57:26]:
What's going on here?

Ryan [00:57:27]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:57:28]:
He was like.

Ryan [00:57:31]:
I guess I did ask for it a little bit. I was bent over.

Leslie Johnston [00:57:37]:
Wait, what did she say when you.

Ryan [00:57:38]:
Told her she was dying? Laughing. She's like, I'm so sorry. I'm like, I'm fine. I just want to make, you know.

Leslie Johnston [00:57:47]:
Like, clear the air.

Ryan [00:57:48]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:57:49]:
That's so funny. I love that. One of the biggest takeaways I think that I've had just from listening to you guys is people really want a good experience with who they're working with. And I think this translates across business as well. Like, my husband's in. You guys know, my husband's in production, and it's like, I think it's notoriously a field where. Where you. It's hard to talk to people that do the job that he does.

Morgan May Treuil [00:58:14]:
But I always tell him I feel like him and his business partner have such great success because they're so fun and likable to work with. Like, him and Alec are just easygoing, easy to talk to kind of people. And I feel like that's the thing that people don't pay attention. And that's. That's one of the reasons why what you've created has become so magical is because you guys create such a powerful, positive human experience. Like, people aren't just buying your product. I think they're buying time spent with you guys, which I feel like is. That's like an untouched part of the business world.

Morgan May Treuil [00:58:46]:
People don't pay attention to is. And I loved what you said to the practical nature of, like, if you don't feel like you're good at that, there are ways to get better at being with people.

Leslie Johnston [00:58:54]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:58:54]:
But that's a really crucial part of business, like, being enjoyable to be around.

Ryan [00:58:58]:
Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [00:58:59]:
Asking more questions to people than you're talking about yourself, being reliable in response. So if you're in any sort of line of work, I feel like the people relationships are something that we're neglecting and we need to be spending more time.

Brandie [00:59:11]:
But I think, too, if you want to stay here, then just don't push yourself to be better at things. But, like, if you want to go here.

Ryan [00:59:17]:
Yeah.

Brandie [00:59:17]:
You have to push yourself beyond what maybe you naturally bring to the table. And you've got to grow your gifts and you've got to grow your skills to go to a different level.

Morgan May Treuil [00:59:27]:
Yes. No. 100%.

Brandie [00:59:28]:
And I'm not saying that's fun, but it's like, you got to do it.

Morgan May Treuil [00:59:32]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:59:32]:
Do it.

Morgan May Treuil [00:59:33]:
You got to be a hard worker, too.

Leslie Johnston [00:59:34]:
We always. We always laugh sometimes because I feel like when we've gone on jobs with you guys, for certain people, you walk in and their house actually is kind of a Mac, but I feel like they just want to pay to hang out with Brandiee. I'm Like, I think they just want to hang out with you guys. They're like, come do my pantry and I'll sit here and just talk to you guys and shoot the breeze.

Ryan [00:59:50]:
Sure.

Morgan May Treuil [00:59:51]:
That's really cool. Wait, sorry. I do have one more question though, and I don't. You don't have to have an answer for this, but have you. Have you had any cool interactions with clients where you feel like your faith has gotten to intersect with biz because your business in. In it of itself is not necessarily a Christian minist. An explicit Christian ministry business? What's that crossover been like? Or has there been.

Ryan [01:00:14]:
Yeah, we. In our line of work, we are in the most personal of spaces with people. We are in their underwear, we are in their safes, we are in their. What's more personal than that? I don't know.

Leslie Johnston [01:00:27]:
You're more personal than like a hairstyle? Like, oh my gosh, you're in there.

Ryan [01:00:32]:
Yes. And we are an every part of their home. It's like we, we are.

Brandie [01:00:37]:
I mean, we have for sure seen.

Ryan [01:00:41]:
We were very naive.

Leslie Johnston [01:00:43]:
We.

Ryan [01:00:43]:
What is this?

Brandie [01:00:44]:
We were.

Ryan [01:00:45]:
Yeah, we did not incorporate soon enough into the home sort supply bag.

Brandie [01:00:51]:
But.

Ryan [01:00:52]:
But yeah, in that we're going through very private and personal things with people. And so you. You are having these moments with them. And so Brady and I, our whole life is about Jesus. And while we're not in a ministry role, we believe everything is ministry. So what kind of conversations have you?

Brandie [01:01:15]:
I just think we've had a lot of conversations with people. I think we've prayed for people again. I think when you're in people's homes and. And you're with their stuff, I think that's like their vulnerabilities, you know, just kind of come out because you're in maybe places that other people don't ever see.

Leslie Johnston [01:01:31]:
Yeah.

Ryan [01:01:32]:
They feel very exposed and very raw. And so you're.

Brandie [01:01:35]:
Yeah, it's like we've like prayed with people about their kids and that's been really cool. And we do. I don't know if we brought this up on here. We host an organizers conference every year. And it's funny that growing up in the church world because like most of what I've known events wise has been church events, songs. I'm like, how do you transition if you don't tell people to close their eyes and pray? That's like every good transition.

Leslie Johnston [01:01:58]:
How are you opening up anything?

Brandie [01:02:00]:
How are we gonna open up? Like, how are we gonna close this baby if we don't dim the lights and Got someone on the keys in the back, you know. And so to do something where it's like, it's not about Jesus, but like, his presence can still be there. Like, I think at our summit last year, like someone came to know the Lord. Cause a friend of ours like prayed with someone in the back and they like wanted to accept Jesus. And we were like, what is happening? Like, we were just talking about like client management systems and like someone gets saved in the back. Like, this is amazing. So I think like our prayers that always we would have like enough margin in what we do for like God to move. And like, you know, we've gone into places where it's like we've just like prayed.

Brandie [01:02:38]:
When we've been in there, we're not praying out loud and nobody knows it's happening, but it's like, yeah, you know, I, I want God to use it because I feel like in our lives, if he doesn't use use it, what in the heck is the point?

Ryan [01:02:49]:
And because we are so relationally driven, we end up, you know, being. Staying in connection and in community with our clients. And so we invite a lot of them to church and you know, that kind of a thing. So that, that is a, you know, another benefit of being so close with these people who are, who are your clients is that you can bring them into, hey, there's this cool event happening at our church, which luckily our church has cool events. So. Yeah.

Morgan May Treuil [01:03:17]:
That's awesome.

Leslie Johnston [01:03:18]:
Your guys business really does like, give a lot back too. It's not like you guys are just like, okay, what works best for us? Like the fact that you do the summit and you teach other organizers. It's like you're not making a ton of money off that. It's like, that is purely like you guys giving back to people, helping other people start up where I feel like business can be so cutthroat and not helping each other that you guys have really. We've learned especially in the organizing industry, it was not that way. I feel like you guys have shifted that in the whole organizing industry that it's like, hey, we're all on the same team. Like, we don't have to be against each other.

Ryan [01:03:54]:
Yeah, yeah.

Leslie Johnston [01:03:54]:
And then you guys give back even like financial, like you've done anti sex trafficking stuff and like a ton of different things that your business has just done so much ministry and so much good without it being your classic ministry.