Leslie Johnston [00:00:00]:
All right, welcome back to Am I Doing this right?
Kristy Wieland May [00:00:04]:
To our.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:05]:
I'm gonna call this our May tour.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:07]:
May. Yeah. We're on the maid.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:08]:
We're on the May tour right now. Not because it's the month of May, but because this is now Morgan's second family member to be on the podcast in the last, like, two weeks.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:16]:
Yeah. It feels like we've had all of your family on the podcast, and I had, like, we. None. I think Grandma wants. My grandma's here. She's just not on camera. She was like, no one's going to know that you have a family because none of your. None of your podcast.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:30]:
I'm like, we'll get the mom whenever they're done.
Kristy Wieland May [00:00:31]:
She does have a family.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:32]:
I feel like this is my mom. This is so special because this is my mom. This is Christy. Used to be Christy K. May.
Kristy Wieland May [00:00:39]:
No, sorry.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:39]:
Christy K. Wieland.
Kristy Wieland May [00:00:40]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:41]:
But then you changed it now to Christy Wieland. May.
Kristy Wieland May [00:00:43]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:44]:
Or that's your.
Kristy Wieland May [00:00:45]:
Yes. I took my maiden name as my middle name.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:47]:
That's so cute you did that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:49]:
That's where I got it.
Kristy Wieland May [00:00:50]:
I was in a family of just girls, so the wiggle and name would.
Leslie Johnston [00:00:53]:
Have kind of would have gone away.
Morgan May Treuil [00:00:55]:
Died off. Yeah. Except. Yeah. Now carries on.
Kristy Wieland May [00:00:59]:
Yes. Carries on.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:00]:
My mom is here from Texas. She's a Texas mom.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:02]:
Yep.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:03]:
And wait, you need to just give us. Before you give us your unpopular opinion. You've. You've watched all these episodes, so you already know how this goes.
Kristy Wieland May [00:01:09]:
Yes, I know how this goes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:10]:
My mom actually calls quite frequently, and she's very embarrassed by all that I say and all that I remember.
Kristy Wieland May [00:01:16]:
Cher. It doesn't make my parenting look after the sheets thing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:22]:
Her and my dad called me and were like, this is. This is not okay. It's gone too far. Don't lump us in all of your. If you want to be gross in public, do it. But don't, like, keep. Don't make us a bathroom day.
Kristy Wieland May [00:01:34]:
You were like, oh, I haven't had pillowcases on for, like, two months.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:37]:
No, I didn't see that on the podcast.
Kristy Wieland May [00:01:39]:
You said it on the story, and I'm like, that's not from us. I have never slept on a pillow with no pillowcases.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:45]:
You've never once slept on a pillow with.
Leslie Johnston [00:01:46]:
Not once.
Kristy Wieland May [00:01:47]:
Not once.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:47]:
Okay, but I'm gonna out you on this, because. Hold on. Just give me a second. Yes. This is like mother, like daughter.
Kristy Wieland May [00:01:52]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:01:53]:
Where did I learn that you don't have to take your makeup off every day? My Mom. My mom will sleep very coffin still with her makeup and she. But you take it off in the morning.
Kristy Wieland May [00:02:05]:
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:06]:
But you sleep with it on.
Kristy Wieland May [00:02:08]:
I just can't stand.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:08]:
And she's got groove skin. I don't have any skin.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:10]:
You know, that's the annoying part is you both have beautiful skin.
Kristy Wieland May [00:02:12]:
But I do have a bedtime routine.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:14]:
Oh.
Kristy Wieland May [00:02:15]:
I like to fall asleep on the couch and then kind of move to the bed.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:18]:
Honestly, we are the same. We are both also on the couch.
Kristy Wieland May [00:02:21]:
True.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:21]:
It. We. Mom can sleep anywhere. It doesn't matter where we are. It could be a torrential. You be sitting outside in a torrential downpour and my mom is asleep. She could be asleep anyway.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:30]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:02:30]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:30]:
And that's me. I'm like instantly.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:33]:
But wait, is your mom, like a very peaceful. Like, I feel like when you would fall asleep on the couch when we lived together, you just. Morgan was like the perfect sleeper.
Kristy Wieland May [00:02:41]:
She was just like.
Leslie Johnston [00:02:42]:
Like, had a little smile and just. Was like, look so peaceful. I don't look that way when I sleep. Does your mom look very peaceful when she.
Kristy Wieland May [00:02:52]:
I do the coffin. Sleep.
Morgan May Treuil [00:02:53]:
Coffin.
Kristy Wieland May [00:02:54]:
Coffin. Because I know in the morning if my husband wakes up first, he's going to check to be sure I'm alive. He's. I can tell. And I. I kind of hold my.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:02]:
Breath sometimes just to see how worried he'd get. What would his response be.
Kristy Wieland May [00:03:07]:
And occasionally I'll shake me. Yes to be sure.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:10]:
Yes.
Kristy Wieland May [00:03:10]:
You know what?
Leslie Johnston [00:03:11]:
That's kind of like when you're little and you're swimming in a swimming pool and you're little and you kind of like. You know, when you float, you do the dead float to see if anybody will come running.
Kristy Wieland May [00:03:19]:
Did you ever do? I did.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:21]:
I'm over here. Just like. Yep.
Kristy Wieland May [00:03:23]:
No.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:24]:
Really?
Leslie Johnston [00:03:25]:
Yes. You, like, float kind of like dead float.
Kristy Wieland May [00:03:27]:
Heads down. It takes a minute.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:30]:
There were four kids in my family.
Kristy Wieland May [00:03:31]:
They were not coming and running. Should.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:34]:
That's me. It probably shouldn't take a minute. Okay, give us the. Give us like the, you know, 30 second spiel of what life is like right now for you.
Kristy Wieland May [00:03:43]:
Yeah, life is good right now. I live in a small town in.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:47]:
Texas, which wasn't always true.
Kristy Wieland May [00:03:48]:
Was never true. I grew up in Austin, and then I raised my family in Round Rock. We, My husband and I raised our family in Round Rock. And then soon after, the girls kind of scattered.
Morgan May Treuil [00:03:58]:
You have three girls?
Kristy Wieland May [00:03:59]:
Three girls. Morgan's the oldest. And then we picked up and moved to a small town where my parents had purchased some land and now I live in a very small town and I started kind of over fresh and had to make friends and learn. It's been a journey and I am so, so happy, which is such a rare.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:16]:
I feel like that's a rare season. Hey, how. Sorry, how old are you?
Kristy Wieland May [00:04:19]:
I am 58.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:20]:
To be 58 and move to a new town and make new friends. And make new friends.
Kristy Wieland May [00:04:24]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:04:24]:
I don't even think I could do it now.
Morgan May Treuil [00:04:27]:
I feel that way about like when I moved here at 25, I was like, yeah, how do people make new friends?
Kristy Wieland May [00:04:31]:
Well, and I always thought I could never live in the country. That sounds miserable. But then I think God kind of. Because that was always my husband's dream to be out in the country and you know, cows the whole thing. And I'm thinking that sounds. But then I think God kind of changed my heart. And I love it out there. I love the simplicity of it.
Kristy Wieland May [00:04:48]:
I love that I don't have a neighbor. I mean, not a close neighbor. And I've been so fortunate that God has. It took a while and it took some effort, but God has provided me with some amazing friends. Oh, really? Amazing friends that you got to meet.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:01]:
Some of you've done a lot of like creating though. Like, it's been fun to watch you do it. It's almost like you should write some kind of like a, A guidebook on how to make new friends in a new place. Because you had some things that you were like, yeah, this could be uncomfortable, but I'm gonna do these things. Like, yeah, you were saying this yesterday. You're like, you can't say. You can't say no.
Kristy Wieland May [00:05:18]:
You always say yes. If someone invites you to do something, always say yes whether you feel comfortable or not kind of thing.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:23]:
And yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:05:24]:
Invite people to do things. Yeah, just kind of put your. Put yourself out there. But it felt very middle school, you know, it was. It's a little bit uncomfortable.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:31]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:05:31]:
People had their groups that they. Born and raised in Lampasas and it weren't. They weren't being rude. They just had their friends.
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:37]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:05:38]:
And so. But we had. There's some women have taken in several of us that have just been amazing. So I do that. I do a lot of Bible studies. I play mahjong with a group at least once a week, which I love.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:49]:
When do you leave again?
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:50]:
Tomorrow morning, like 7:00am all right.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:52]:
Tonight, are you teaching us mahjong?
Morgan May Treuil [00:05:54]:
No, I'm on over service tonight. But we need to, we need to late night mahjong like Mahjong.
Leslie Johnston [00:05:59]:
Yeah, I know we need to.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:01]:
She's literally.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:02]:
Oh yeah, that's right.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:02]:
With mahjong. I know this whole town is.
Kristy Wieland May [00:06:05]:
But I.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:06]:
Your own tiles and stuff.
Kristy Wieland May [00:06:07]:
Oh, we all have our tiles.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:08]:
Yes, everyone's got their own tiles and they're, they're not cheap.
Kristy Wieland May [00:06:11]:
I have a sweet friend who lives in Lampas and she has a store there and so she, she let us, she let us buy tiles at cost from her. But their tiles are amazing.
Leslie Johnston [00:06:19]:
I love them.
Kristy Wieland May [00:06:20]:
We all have our own aesthetic and yeah, they gave me for my birthday they gave me a Christmas mahjong mat. So I broke it out mid October because it was time. Yeah. So now that whole thing is fun. And then I joined the library board because that sounded interesting. And what do you do on a library board? We just plan things for the library I love and fundraisers and that kind of stuff. We just had barbecue for books so everybody bought barbecue sandwiches. So we did a big assembly line.
Kristy Wieland May [00:06:48]:
And this is so classic though.
Morgan May Treuil [00:06:50]:
Growing up my mom was everywhere like so she was, she was a kids pastor for most of our life, most of our childhood. But she also stayed at home too. So it was like I never remember my mom not being there. And then when we were old enough to kind of be self sufficient she was a kid's pastor. But then she was also like the president of the, of the, the booster club for our dance team. But then me and Kristen and Amanda were all on the dance team basically for like 10 straight years because once one of us would graduate, the other one would make the team. Yeah, she was like the booster club president for 10 years. So I thought when she moved to the country she was going to be like, and I'm retired, like I'm done, I'm not doing anything else.
Morgan May Treuil [00:07:29]:
And then she just goes and gets herself on all these boards and these libraries and she's got mahjong tournaments.
Kristy Wieland May [00:07:34]:
Well, and I didn't mention the very best blessing was I joined a Bible study. An, an elderly lady had bought a home in town strictly to host Bible studies. In the past 20 years she and her best friend were hosting Bible studies. And my best friend who lives in town, she invited me to this Bible study. It's a lot of older women which has been amazing. I mean the most faithful women who have seen it all, have it all, you know, it's been really, really inspiring. But the lady who owned the home, she passed away last year and so it was her family's dream to continue her legacy. So my friend and I have Stepped into helping with leading that.
Kristy Wieland May [00:08:09]:
So I do that twice a week. And that's been the biggest gift to me.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:13]:
That is so cool.
Kristy Wieland May [00:08:14]:
I'm humbled and honored to get to sit in that home and talk about Jesus twice a week. So I've always wondered what my next ministry would be because, you know, you always know God has something else. You don't get to retire from ministry ever, Right?
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:26]:
No.
Kristy Wieland May [00:08:27]:
So we. We joined a church, and I do volunteer in children's ministry there. But this has been kind of a really neat surprise I didn't see coming.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:33]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:08:34]:
And I have loved every minute of the wisdom in that room, and it's pretty amazing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:08:39]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:40]:
I love how full your life is. I think that's encouraging for moms to see when they're like, wait, what's going to happen when my kids are out of the house? And I'm like, when they live in different places and.
Kristy Wieland May [00:08:51]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:08:51]:
And it's like, oh, my gosh. Like, your ministry is just almost like starting in that sense with that. With those things, which is really cool.
Kristy Wieland May [00:08:58]:
Part of it, too, is I didn't want my kids to worry about me. You know, they are spread out, and I want. I don't want to think poor mom didn't have anything. You know, she's just waiting for us to come home. I didn't want her to. Them to worry about me. So I found some things to do.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:10]:
I do.
Kristy Wieland May [00:09:11]:
I'm still going to chase them everywhere, but. Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:14]:
And now you have a little grandbaby to chase.
Kristy Wieland May [00:09:16]:
Wait, before.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:16]:
Before we really, really jump in. Do you have an unpopular opinion?
Kristy Wieland May [00:09:21]:
You know, I've thought about this for a while because I always thought if I was ever on here. I think this is the weirdest thing about me. I love a good processed meat. Like a good solid hot dog. That'd be my deathbed meal. A chili.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:34]:
I heard your grandma name is Chili Dog.
Kristy Wieland May [00:09:36]:
It's not. It's not. Benji's trying to.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:40]:
I love a good processed meat. Is the. It might be the craziest.
Kristy Wieland May [00:09:44]:
I grew up on Vienna sausages.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:47]:
Okay. You know what that is?
Leslie Johnston [00:09:48]:
No.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:48]:
I may have heard of it.
Kristy Wieland May [00:09:49]:
Disgusting.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:50]:
The canned.
Leslie Johnston [00:09:50]:
Oh, the little mini ones that come.
Kristy Wieland May [00:09:53]:
Like, look like little fingers.
Morgan May Treuil [00:09:54]:
Jelly.
Kristy Wieland May [00:09:54]:
Yeah. Yeah. The funny part about me is I'm like Morgan with meat. Like with chicken. I don't want anything on the bone. I don't want to see any tendons or fat or anything weird.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:03]:
Nothing, really.
Kristy Wieland May [00:10:03]:
If you grind it up so small and stick it in a hot dog all day long, that is so that's kind of gross, and I know it's not good for me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:13]:
But you love a hot dog.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:14]:
But you love it.
Kristy Wieland May [00:10:15]:
Love just a good processed meat.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:17]:
Do you have, like, merch? Like, hot dog merch? Because.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:22]:
You should make it your personality type. It should become fully hot dog. We wanted to call it.
Leslie Johnston [00:10:26]:
Do you call them dogs? That'd be kind of cool, like chili dogs. It's kind of cool to be like, oh, I'm just gonna get a dog.
Kristy Wieland May [00:10:32]:
I'm gonna go get a dog. I'm not a big Chicago dog situation. I want, like, a more basic chili.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:37]:
Ballpark hot dog or a chili dog. Yes. You used to get chili dogs from Sonic. I love that. And she would eat them with a. With a. They come in a little carton. She would eat them with a fork, which is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:10:47]:
Yeah. This is why. Also, I have to out her on this, too, because they love coming to visit us in California. But her and my dad, they've been here a few times where they just haven't been impressed with the food situation. And the food in the south is known for being really good. The food here is good, too. It's just different. But she literally had the audacity to tell us that the best restaurant in all the entire state of California was topgolf.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:09]:
Topgolf is the stupid golf. Golf. Like, it's the. It's like the what? Dave and Busters of golf. And you literally order food to your golf.
Kristy Wieland May [00:11:19]:
This trip has redeemed the food thing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:21]:
But you can't go and said, topgolf is the best restaurant.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:25]:
Yeah, that's like.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:26]:
That's also. They have topgolfs everywhere.
Kristy Wieland May [00:11:28]:
I know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:29]:
So.
Kristy Wieland May [00:11:29]:
But I've never been to one.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:30]:
They had a chili dog there.
Kristy Wieland May [00:11:32]:
No, but we had all kinds of good pizza.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:35]:
Chicken tenders. It was.
Kristy Wieland May [00:11:36]:
I'm like, I am not a very sophisticated eater.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:40]:
It's not a foodie by any means.
Kristy Wieland May [00:11:41]:
Yeah. And calls me meat and taters.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:43]:
Meat and taters.
Leslie Johnston [00:11:44]:
Meat and taters.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:46]:
That's a really good unpopular opinion, because lots of people don't like hot dogs. Yeah. Or processed meat. Because you.
Kristy Wieland May [00:11:54]:
Or just know how bad they are for you. Yes. And I can know that. And yet.
Morgan May Treuil [00:11:57]:
And you're fine with it. You're like, I prefer that. I know it, and I prefer it.
Kristy Wieland May [00:12:00]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:00]:
I love that.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:01]:
Okay, I have a question. So you have three girls.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:04]:
Yes.
Leslie Johnston [00:12:04]:
And they are all super close. Like, we've gotten to. I mean, Kristen was on the podcast. We need to get Amanda on eventually. But I feel like you've raised three girls that all love to spend time together, and they love you guys. What do you feel like, what did you do while raising them? To, like, create that sense of closeness that, like, I look at their. I look at your family, and I'm like, you guys might be the closest family that I've ever seen in a.
Morgan May Treuil [00:12:32]:
Really good, healthy way, you know?
Kristy Wieland May [00:12:36]:
I wish I knew. I'm so incredibly thankful that they are, because they're very different. Y' all are all very different in personality. I think the space has helped a little bit. I mean, they've always been close, but I think they all have their own lives, their own friends, their own churches, their own thing. So I think that's been a sweet season. But in terms of growing up as different as you are, I mean, this sounds like a super spiritual answer, but I just always think our faith is always kind of driven, the closeness. Like, that's where we came to common ground.
Kristy Wieland May [00:13:04]:
Always. I think we also all have very similar senses, sense of humor. We learn. We laugh a lot. Yeah, a whole lot.
Leslie Johnston [00:13:11]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:13:13]:
Together. I don't know. It's interesting.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:16]:
I have two. Two things that they did really well that I think are cool for sisters number one. And Benji and I talk about this a lot for our household. My parents were always really good about nothing. No topic felt untouchable or off limits. And so even if that was, like. Even if some of those humorous conversations were, like, a little edgy, like, you guys were fine with the edgy, and you were fine with, like, the vulnerability. And I never felt scared to come tell you guys something or if, like, something happened at school or we heard that someone did something, you know, wild.
Morgan May Treuil [00:13:51]:
And, like, I remember being in a college sorority or whatever and hearing some of the things that people would do, you know, out at parties on the weekends, and I couldn't wait to call my mom and daughter. And I feel like there are certain people. Certain people that have relationships with their parents where they're, like, they're a little scared to cross that threshold of, like, what am I allowed to say? What am I allowed to say? You guys were always really anything. Like, we would rather you process it and talk about it. So everything was always open processing. My dad probably felt a little grossed out by all the girl.
Kristy Wieland May [00:14:23]:
I think it was kind of nice, honestly, that we were all girls, because he just kind of jumped in with it. You know, it was a lot of families, when there's boys and girls, sometimes the dad takes the boys. That. That was just always with us. And he brought A whole new level of humor.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:35]:
And the other thing, I think you did really well, too. And I think your mom probably did this really well, too, because you and Christy, and especially with you guys being twins, is I never felt. Now, granted, I'm the oldest, so easier to say this. We. We should have talked to Kristen and Amanda about this. But my mom, it did a great job of not comparing us. Like, there was no. There was no competitive.
Morgan May Treuil [00:14:56]:
Everyone's experience was their own experience. And every time that we did something, it was like the most important thing in the world, what we were doing. And I remember that being true for all of our siblings. So I don't remember ever being, like, in Kristin or Amanda's shadows or ever feeling like their thing was more important than my thing. She always made sure that everyone felt like their things were the most important things or if we did the same thing, but at different times. She put 110 effort into everyone's season of doing something, which I felt like made the kind of relationships for us where we didn't get to the end of childhood and be like, oh, I'm bitter, because, yeah, you know, mom and dad were more invested in their stuff or, you know, saw more in them than they saw. They were just really good about. Everyone was individual, and no one was being compared to each other, which I feel like was.
Kristy Wieland May [00:15:44]:
Yeah, I think we're definitely hardest on you being the first. You know, they're kind of an extension. Extension of you. And then I don't know why I always just. I always worried about Kristen because she was the middle, you know, and so I always, you know, I feel like sometimes I babied her a little bit. But anyway, I feel like it all. All turned out good. And one thing I've tried really hard to do even now is I need to stay out of yalls.
Kristy Wieland May [00:16:05]:
You know, if you are in kind of a. Not a disagree, you know, I'm saying if y' all are discussing something or I need to stay out of it, it's not my business to fix everything.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:13]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:16:13]:
And I'm trying really hard to do that.
Leslie Johnston [00:16:15]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:16]:
What was the season of parenting where you felt like you were asking yourself the question, am I doing this right the most?
Kristy Wieland May [00:16:23]:
It's a good question.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:25]:
I guess, like, maybe like the season that held the most insecurity or the past.
Kristy Wieland May [00:16:28]:
Yeah. I mean, probably letting go of everybody, you know, this season. Yes. Well, when you left.
Morgan May Treuil [00:16:35]:
Right.
Kristy Wieland May [00:16:35]:
Everyone was kind of leaving at the same time. And, you know, you. You raise these children, and they're everything to you, and you love them, and your favorite thing to do is spend time with them, but ultimately, you want them to follow what God has for them. And so I remember I was not doing it right when you were trying to leave for California, and I was just kind of. I was pretty immature about it, Honestly. I was just sad. We were doing ministry together. My favorite thing in the world.
Kristy Wieland May [00:17:00]:
It'll still be. One of my favorite seasons of my life was when she and I were coming to church together. You know how it is to work with your dad. I mean, it's like the greatest gift. And so I saw that changing, and I knew clearly God was calling her to California. And when it was all said and done, but it hurts. It's hard because I grew up, and still the entire family's right around his side, my side, everyone, cousins, you know, we get invited to everybody's family stuff, but my kids aren't there. And so I had to.
Kristy Wieland May [00:17:27]:
I feel like for the first time, my heart is right with it. You know, I feel like God is allowing me to see, hey, these are my children. You raised them to be mine.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:37]:
Right.
Kristy Wieland May [00:17:38]:
Let them do what I'm asking them to do.
Morgan May Treuil [00:17:40]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:17:41]:
And so that's been a huge thing for me over the past couple of years, is just learning to be okay with that. And even knowing I'm having a grandchild, I'm beyond excited. I mean, like, beyond excited that I'm have a grandchild. I never dreamed it would be a grandchild in another state, you know, but at the same time, somehow, I'm strangely at peace with that. Yeah, I'm okay. We're gonna be fine. Yeah, God's gonna work it out. I'm gonna have a relationship with Waylon.
Kristy Wieland May [00:18:05]:
Yeah. You know, David, I mean, we're just so excited to be grandparents. I'm excited to see him on the ranch, all those things. So I think I wasn't doing it right when everybody started leaving. In fact, Chris Morgan left. Kristen went to Dallas, which seems like it's a lot closer, but I'd almost rather get on a plane than drive across Dallas.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:25]:
But it's.
Kristy Wieland May [00:18:29]:
It's a beast of a driver, and I'm scared to do that kind of driving. Yeah. So that's kind of the same level. And I probably see Kristen and Morgan about the same amount. Okay. Now Amanda lives an hour from me. But at the time when all everybody was spreading out, Amanda's like, hey, do you think I should go do a study abroad? And I'm like, no.
Morgan May Treuil [00:18:48]:
She want to go Spain Casually.
Kristy Wieland May [00:18:52]:
And I wasn't nice about that either. You know, I was just. Finally, my mother kind of pulled me, said, hey, you need to get it together, because if you tell her not to go to California, she won't go. And that's not right. And I was like, okay, you're right. She won't.
Leslie Johnston [00:19:03]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:19:04]:
So. Yeah. So I feel like for the first time in my life, my heart is right. And I feel like, for the most part, my actions are better.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:10]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:19:11]:
Towards all of you. Chasing your dreams and following what God has for you. And, you know, I look at my life right now. I've got three daughters who all love Jesus. They're thriving in their communities. They. They have the best friends. I mean, the best community that you could ask for.
Kristy Wieland May [00:19:26]:
So it's almost scary how wonderful life is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:29]:
He's having this, like, thing right now where she feels like she's about to have, like, a. Like a. That her and dad are gonna die in a tragic accident. What? Because everything's going so well.
Kristy Wieland May [00:19:38]:
I'm like, she's just gonna set up.
Morgan May Treuil [00:19:40]:
Like, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. She keeps talking about it, and I'm like, can you stop putting this out into the ether? Cause I don't know how it all works, but I don't want it.
Kristy Wieland May [00:19:49]:
It's called anxiety, which I have my fair share. On top of all of these things, though, I love my husband. I mean, I just. He's my favorite person in the world. So the fact that we're living on this piece of land and it's the two of us most of the time, and, I mean, it just doesn't get much better.
Leslie Johnston [00:20:06]:
I love that. Well, let's back up then. When you met David, how, like, did you know instantly? Like, this is the one?
Kristy Wieland May [00:20:16]:
David and I met in high school, so we were very good friends in high school. He was a year younger than me. Never dated in high school. Really good friends. Like, really good friends. I decorated his house when it was football season. You know, we'd go around and decorate football players houses and take them treats and all that. So he and I were really good friends, and we went to lunch together.
Kristy Wieland May [00:20:32]:
Cause I was off campus. Lunch, all those things. But we didn't date until we both ran into each other at a country western dancing place. And we both had other dates.
Morgan May Treuil [00:20:41]:
It's like a whole. Wow.
Kristy Wieland May [00:20:42]:
It's so homework. And so he's, like, dancing, and this little blonde's sitting on his lap, and I'm like, okay. So I think maybe They're. And so I even went home and told my mom. I was like, I saw David. She loved David. I saw David, and I think he looks happy. And then he was selling insurance at the time.
Kristy Wieland May [00:20:57]:
That was his first job. So when he called me, I was like, here, he's gonna try to sell me insurance. You know. So at that time, there was no. So I had my roommate at the time, I was like, hey, you need to screen these, because I can't. I don't have the money for insurance. And he's so sweet. I don't wanna tell him no, but I can't help.
Kristy Wieland May [00:21:11]:
Yeah. And then one day, I answered by accident. He's like, you wanna go on a date? And I was like, huh? I mean, it's just weird. It took me a moment to get out of the friend zone, like, so. I think God was so good because I dated some frogs. I mean, it was. And you know, so many blind dates and. Yeah, yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:21:29]:
So anyway, you have some crazy stories. I do.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:32]:
So I love that I. You. You date for how long before you get married?
Kristy Wieland May [00:21:36]:
I guess about a year of dating. A year.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:39]:
Engagement gauge.
Kristy Wieland May [00:21:40]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:41]:
So you dated for two years?
Kristy Wieland May [00:21:42]:
Yes. But the thing about him is I'd known him since he was a. And a kid, so it's like there was a lot of history that was.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:48]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:48]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:48]:
You didn't have to discover all these things.
Kristy Wieland May [00:21:50]:
No, I kind of knew that. I knew people who knew him, I knew his family.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:53]:
And you knew how to be friends with him.
Kristy Wieland May [00:21:54]:
Oh, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:21:55]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:21:56]:
Which at the end of the day.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:57]:
That'S what I mean.
Kristy Wieland May [00:21:59]:
That's the most important.
Leslie Johnston [00:21:59]:
I mean, that's the most important thing.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:00]:
Yeah. So then at what point and. And you've been. You've been open about this, at least with me. And then I think in some other spaces, when you've, like, done some teaching things in Bible studies, but at some point you have this anxiety disorder that either maybe always existed dormant but got really bad in adulthood season.
Kristy Wieland May [00:22:20]:
I remember in college it was centralized anxiety and it sat really heavy at times. Like it was just kind of a constant state of anxiousness.
Morgan May Treuil [00:22:27]:
Did you have it your whole childhood but then got diagnosed?
Kristy Wieland May [00:22:29]:
I worried a lot in my childhood. I worried a lot, but I also was very happy. So I don't really know where. When it started. I can't pinpoint that or any reason, but I remember worrying and I remember thinking, what was I worried about? My childhood was pretty much perfect, but I worried a ton about all kinds of things. And then in college had More of it kind of sat on me. I remember really sitting on me. And then that whole whole thing happened.
Kristy Wieland May [00:22:55]:
And then. But it was really the panic set in when I was pregnant with Kristen. So I already had you. And again, centralized anxiety. I had seen a counselor, I had taken medic. All those things with that. But then the panic disorder set in when I was pregnant with her. And so when I had you two little kids, I was pretty much paralyzed by panic disorder.
Kristy Wieland May [00:23:15]:
And it was triggered by being in a car with y'.
Morgan May Treuil [00:23:18]:
All.
Kristy Wieland May [00:23:18]:
I could be in a car with people and I was fine. But if I was just in a car with myself or just the little kids. So it was pretty paralyzing for years, actually. Yeah. Pretty terrifying. And the other thing that was a trigger randomly was fluorescent lighting, which, unfortunately, is what grocery stores have and Target has. So my escape places were not. Not escapes.
Kristy Wieland May [00:23:40]:
So I just. I had a lot of support for my family. Just kind of truck. Cause a lot of times I didn't want to be alone. I had a friend who, when I was too uncomfortable driving into Austin from Flugerville, which is maybe 30 minutes, she'd ride with me. You know, I mean, just. I had a lot of people just kind of picking me up and. And then I was doing a Bible study.
Kristy Wieland May [00:24:01]:
You know, I had kind of been on a journey of trying to heal, and I tried different things and backed off of them for this, that, this or that reason. And so I was doing a Bible study. All the kids were. Amanda. I was still dealing with it, and Amanda was in kindergarten. So imagine that's quite a few years now that I think about it. And I started going to a Bible study, and the teaching leader there learned about my, you know, situation. And she said, well, we were doing the Bible study lesson about the guy who's trying to get to the water to heal.
Kristy Wieland May [00:24:28]:
I don't remember exactly, but he said, you know, Jesus says, do you want to get well? And she said, I feel like, do you want to get well? And I'm like, I'm just tired. I'm tired of fighting it. I'm trying. Tired of trying to figure it out, what works. But that kind of led me down a path of, okay, I'm going to figure this out. I can't live like this. And that led me into more counseling and then really following a trip on medication that actually allowed the panic attacks to subside. But me, because I could still be me.
Leslie Johnston [00:24:54]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:24:54]:
And that was when they ended. Praise God. Yeah. And they have not returned. Yeah. So, yeah, it was A. It was a long season, though. It was a long season.
Kristy Wieland May [00:25:05]:
And it was, it was one of those things where I'm sitting there thinking I have everything I ever wanted. You know, I had every dream I had. I was married, I had kids, I had everything I had ever dreamed of. And yet I couldn't enjoy it some of the time because I was. Wow.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:18]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:25:18]:
And back then, too. I love that we can talk about that. Back then I remember being very self conscious about talking about it. Yeah. Like my husband's family, even though I'm very close to them, I didn't really talk. I didn't want to sound weak to me at the time because they didn't deal with anything like that.
Leslie Johnston [00:25:33]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:25:34]:
And honestly, my family didn't either. They just, they, they have been around you long enough. Yes. So they just knew they could, they could sense it in me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:25:42]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:25:43]:
Yeah. But, yeah, I've been clear of that since then, praise God. And I've always wondered, is it going to come back? You know, you're always looking over your shoulder and it's funny, to this day I have never gotten in a car. I'll do like an hour drive from my house, but I would, I would be scared to death to get in a car and drive from my house to Kristen's by myself to Dallas because I'm in it. And it's been forever.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:05]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:26:06]:
Yeah. Since I've had a panic attack.
Leslie Johnston [00:26:08]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:26:08]:
But that kind of sits with you.
Leslie Johnston [00:26:09]:
But it does sit with you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:10]:
Yeah. Yeah. So on the other side of, on the other side of that, what do you think? The, like when you, you know, obviously God doesn't cause suffering, but when you. But he. But he redeems it. So when you look on the other side of that, do you feel like you have a theory as to why God allowed for that season to happen in your life?
Kristy Wieland May [00:26:28]:
Well, I think it's helped me, you and I kind of see. I mean, mine's different but similar for sure. I think in ministry it was always, it was funny because anytime anyone would come in the church office and had any kind of a mental anything, they're like, hey, Christ. Because unless you've walked it, you don't really know how to pray or, you know, it's just a different feeling. So I feel like that was definitely the case. I don't really understand why it happened. I do think I've been able to use it to empathize and help other people.
Morgan May Treuil [00:26:59]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:27:00]:
But mental illness is always really hard because at the time you're in It. It's really hard to feel connected to God, even though you're just crying out to him.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:10]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:27:10]:
But I do think, and we've talked about this, there's not a day that I wake up and think, oh, I'm good on my own. You know, I always feel like I need.
Leslie Johnston [00:27:17]:
You have a dependence on him.
Kristy Wieland May [00:27:18]:
Very dependent.
Leslie Johnston [00:27:19]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:27:19]:
Very dependent. I've never lived a day that I didn't feel that in some sense. And I think that's a huge blessing. It's like the thorn on the side kind of thing. It's like I don't walk around feeling too confident.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:29]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:27:30]:
You know, Which I think is a good thing.
Leslie Johnston [00:27:32]:
Yeah, Absolutely.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:34]:
Yeah. Was that. Was that. Because I. I know my dad, but that's something that he struggles with. Like, in no way. Like, like in no way. And he'll try to be like, oh, I have more.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:48]:
Like, when he's like, I have one. We know, whatever. Like, you don't understand. Like, you don't.
Kristy Wieland May [00:27:53]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:27:53]:
He's like, I got a little flustered.
Morgan May Treuil [00:27:56]:
No. It's like he thinks about that in no. In zero way. And I always wonder. And I. I similar with, like, my relationship with Benji. I don't think. I think Benji holds space.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:08]:
Sorry, not hold space, like. Like Ariana Grande and whatever.
Kristy Wieland May [00:28:12]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:13]:
I think he holds space for it, but he doesn't understand it. And I was curious if that ever put strain on. I mean, I don't remember you in that.
Kristy Wieland May [00:28:20]:
I was actually blown away with how well he handled that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:23]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:28:24]:
He didn't get it.
Leslie Johnston [00:28:25]:
How did he handle that?
Kristy Wieland May [00:28:27]:
I think he just allowed me. He never doubted that I felt that way. You know, he just allowed me to feel that, communicate that, do what I needed to do with that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:36]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:28:37]:
Whether it be see somebody or take medicine, you know, whatever it was, he just was supportive of what I needed to do and he was there for me. Yeah. And I think back about that. That's huge for somebody who has no idea it's not their fault.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:50]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:28:50]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:28:51]:
They just have no idea what that feeling is. Like, it makes no sense. He kept saying, well, what does it feel like when you're having a panic attack? What do you want to do? And I was like, I don't know. It's like fight or flight kind of thing. You.
Morgan May Treuil [00:28:58]:
Yeah. You know.
Kristy Wieland May [00:28:59]:
You know, you feel like you. Impending doom and you're like.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:02]:
And then someone's like, what's wrong? And you're like, that's not how it works. It's not like a what's wrong?
Leslie Johnston [00:29:06]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:06]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:29:07]:
Yes.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:07]:
I used to be like, what's. What's going on? I'm like, it doesn't work that way. And then he used that on me the other day. He was, like, in a bad mood about something, and I was like, what is wrong? And he's like, doesn't work that way. Like, okay. You can't just, like, it's not. It's different.
Kristy Wieland May [00:29:22]:
But.
Morgan May Treuil [00:29:22]:
Yes, yes. So it's like, yeah, hard to.
Leslie Johnston [00:29:25]:
I love that he was there for you in that way, because I think a lot of people who want to support somebody who is struggling in that area, they feel like they have to have the right thing to say or, like, a fix or something. But I love that you come out of that going, he never experienced that before. He has no idea what it feels like. But he was supportive of whatever I needed to do and was always there and nonjudgmental. Like, those are the things. I think that, like, we can help other people when we may not understand what they're going through. We've never walked through whatever it is that, like, even just your support and being there can do more than trying to give advice or give, like, a fix for something.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:10]:
You know, validation that something's real, too, when you don't understand it.
Kristy Wieland May [00:30:14]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:14]:
I'm thinking about the girl who would ride with you into Austin. It's like, there's nothing about that that maybe makes sense to her, but just, like, the recognition of, okay, I believe this is real to you. Yes. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna jump in. You jump in it with you, and.
Kristy Wieland May [00:30:29]:
I'm gonna take time to do this small thing to help you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:31]:
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say, too, like, I mean, obviously there are people listening to this that are not. Maybe in the motherhood space. They haven't. They can't see the full picture of why God's allowed the mental health thing to be a factor. But I. Look, I listen to your.
Morgan May Treuil [00:30:48]:
Your story with it, and obviously it's a huge part of my story, and. And, you know, I. I think you can very easily convince yourself, well, I was allowed to walk through this and find God in it and learn how to cope with it, because there would be someone coming after me that would need it, you know, that.
Kristy Wieland May [00:31:04]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:04]:
That much more or whatever. And, yeah. I mean, I think growing up, you. You were 100% the person and still are, but I think more people have awareness and sympathy for it now. Again, like, the. The person that had the awareness and the. The like, closeness to understand what I was going through and to make me feel like it was going to be okay, like, even into adulthood. My mom was like the person that I would call anytime that something, you know, triggering would happen.
Morgan May Treuil [00:31:36]:
Like, throwing up was my biggest trigger for a long time. So I would call her, I would FaceTime her and just, like, set her up on the bathroom. And I would just need her to be there with me while some of these horrible things. And I feel like that's. That's the. That's the thing that you find your full circle redemption when you realize, like, oh, I'm able to. To give part of myself in this area because I walked through that and found God in it. So I feel like that's, like, that's just for those people that are listening, that are like, why do I have to struggle through this? Your struggle is.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:08]:
Is not necessarily. Your struggle is not from God. Because I don't believe that God causes suffering. But it's always redemptive and it's always for somebody else.
Kristy Wieland May [00:32:20]:
Always.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:20]:
There's never a time when you're suffering. Your experience, your story is not for somebody else to become more sure that God loves them.
Kristy Wieland May [00:32:29]:
Yeah, I agree.
Morgan May Treuil [00:32:29]:
And it is crazy how God puts people in your direct path who need that, need your presence, need your experience. Yeah. Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:32:40]:
Was it ever. This is. Might be a strange question, but having coming out of that season for you, then Morgan walking into a season or kind of like a lifelong struggle a little bit with anxiety. Was that ever hard for you? Like, ooh, I like. Because you had kind of. I don't wanna say overcome it. Cause it wasn't necessarily like that. But you talked about.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:04]:
You kind of feel like it's always behind you a little bit. Was that ever hard to go? I'm trying to help somebody, but it's also my direct struggle, you know?
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:13]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:33:13]:
And I just felt bad because I was like, oh, she got this from me. Yeah. I was like, man, I wish I had given her something. Something better.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:21]:
But you gave her so many good things.
Kristy Wieland May [00:33:24]:
Hers also presented different. A little bit, you know, like, mine was panic disorder. Hers had a lot to do with food, which I didn't know, you know, so hers. I was able to. I don't know. It's. It's hard. But ours are a little bit different.
Kristy Wieland May [00:33:37]:
So panic disorder. I could always understand the panic attack. Yeah. Because that was, like, real and.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:41]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:33:41]:
Miserable. And I could tell. I could even watch her when she was doing ministry. We were doing ministry together. I could tell when she was. Yeah. On the edge.
Leslie Johnston [00:33:48]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:33:49]:
The thing that I think has been good for Morgan and I both is just we've powered through. I think it's, we're in a, we're in a, a day of time now where people don't know whether to kind.
Morgan May Treuil [00:33:59]:
Of pull back, remove yourself, or do it scared.
Kristy Wieland May [00:34:03]:
Yes. Yes, yes. And I think we have both realized doing it scared is better than for sure sitting back and missing life.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:09]:
Yeah. Because you, you could totally miss life. That's the thing.
Kristy Wieland May [00:34:12]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:34:12]:
Like you could. And, and there are probably people listening to this that are like, yeah, I'm in that point where I'm, I'm stuck in my bed, I'm stuck in my room and I'm missing my life. And I'm not saying that you shouldn't have boundaries. And there's like, there's so much, you know, stuff now about, you know, Sabbath and rest and protecting yourself, protecting your peace, all that kind of stuff. And I do believe in that because the other, the other ugly side to anxiety is you can overwork yourself to over distract yourself and then in turn, yes, not take care of yourself. But we do know, like, we have seen people take this opposite approach of like, well, I'm just gonna hole up and protect myself. And it just doesn't feel like you redeem. You don't get any of your life back.
Kristy Wieland May [00:34:51]:
No, you don't. And you build confidence doing things afraid.
Leslie Johnston [00:34:55]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:34:56]:
Or even panicked. You know, I remember getting up on stage at our church in Round Rock is sometimes in the middle of a full fledged panic attack, you know, just shaking. And you know, I got through it. And I knew God wanted me to do it. Cause I was, you know, doing it, doing it for him in ministry, whatever. But there's something about it builds confidence knowing that I got through it, I survived, nothing bad happened. And so I think over time, pushing is the best thing. Even though it's hard.
Morgan May Treuil [00:35:22]:
I don't know if you've ever felt this way too, but I used to get freaked that having the panic attack during the thing would steal the experience from me. But actually now I think about it differently. I think the doing the experience regardless of how you felt is the thing that helps you feel like you want it back. Like you didn't lose, you didn't lose. You know, even like our wedding day, it's like there was parts of my wedding day that I was, you know, all I wanted was for them to be panic free moments in the wedding day and then they weren't. And you know, your first thought is like, dang this is just the one. The one thing I wanted was like a panic free this. But then you're like, no, the victory is that I, I, I got to have the wedding day.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:02]:
You know what I'm saying? Like, or I got to have. I got to do this. It doesn't really matter. I think we both kind of. You've helped me realize this too. It's like, it's actually okay to do things miserable. It's like, totally fine.
Kristy Wieland May [00:36:13]:
Like, that's fine.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:14]:
Because eternity isn't like that.
Kristy Wieland May [00:36:16]:
No, I know.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:17]:
So it's like you want to get to the end of life and be like, I look back and like, yeah, a lot of things that I've done were miserable things to do, but at least I did them. At least I didn't not do them because of fear.
Kristy Wieland May [00:36:26]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:27]:
I don't know if that's. I love that anybody, instead of do.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:29]:
It scared, do it miserable.
Kristy Wieland May [00:36:31]:
Do it miserable.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:31]:
Yeah, that, that should be like. We romanticize the experience of life. Like, everything has to be awesome all the time. And people don't go do stuff because they're worried about being miserable. And it's like, no, it can be miserable. You could still do it. And it's actually good that you did it.
Leslie Johnston [00:36:45]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:46]:
Because then. Then you'll do it again, and then the next time you do it, it.
Kristy Wieland May [00:36:49]:
Won'T be as miserable. Yeah. Yeah. It's so true.
Morgan May Treuil [00:36:53]:
And you did that. That was so true. And so do you. I also wondered. This is. Sorry. I know we're probably running out of time, but I also wonder this too, if motherhood changes your. Because, like, Leslie's question of, like, because my struggle was like, your struggle.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:08]:
Was it hard to maintain distance between your struggle and my struggle? Like, because it would be easy to fall back into your old patterns by watching me. But then I wondered if there was, like, a motherhood thing where, like, all of a sudden someone needs you, so you can't really. What does Charmaine call it? Motherhood's like, self forgetfulness.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:26]:
Oh, yeah, yeah. She said that one time you kind.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:27]:
Of enter this mode where you're like, I can't really go.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:30]:
I don't actually have a lot of time to think about me.
Kristy Wieland May [00:37:32]:
Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:32]:
Yeah, right.
Kristy Wieland May [00:37:33]:
And that doesn't mean all of it stopped, but it encouraged me to keep going. I mean, I'm gonna go ahead. I'm going to the playdead. I'm going to the birthday party. I can't stop. Because now, more importantly, of me missing something is them missing something that's true.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:44]:
It's not just you in your room anymore, right? Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:37:46]:
So they're not going to miss anything because mom's, you know, got this thing on the side or whatever.
Leslie Johnston [00:37:50]:
Totally.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:51]:
That one's just going to bring her thing with.
Kristy Wieland May [00:37:53]:
Yeah. I'm packing it up and we're going.
Morgan May Treuil [00:37:57]:
But I know I'm packing up my anxiety and to go with I'm going, but.
Kristy Wieland May [00:38:01]:
Yeah, I mean, but again, it's like we were talking before this start, you know, Life is a mixture of joy and hard at the same time. Always. And so there was always joy in it.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:09]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:38:09]:
But it was hard. So I look back and I can remember a ton of joy. Ton of joy. Even in the midst of all of that.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:16]:
Yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:38:16]:
But I think that's a life hack.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:19]:
To figure out that there are things that can be both. Because if you think things are all one or all the other, then you're gonna be actually miserable in your life. You are. Because then if something's a little bad, it's all bad. But it's okay to have like a 60% good day and a 40% bad day.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:33]:
Oh, yeah.
Kristy Wieland May [00:38:33]:
Oh, yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:38:34]:
And to call that a good one.
Leslie Johnston [00:38:35]:
Yeah. And your experience is. Yeah. It's not robbed from you if you still go and do it. And now, like, I. We talk about, like, I feel like I struggle with a level of anxiety, but it's very different from Morgan's, where I feel like, to me, I'll get, like, looping thoughts or things like intrusive thoughts, those types of things that go like, oh, shoot, I don't want to have to think about this thing. Or I don't want to, like, why is this in my mind? And I feel like sometimes in the past that has robbed me where it was like, oh, okay, well, then I'm not going to go to this thing because I feel like that will be even more triggering or I will. Whatever.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:07]:
And then I had to realize, no, I'm not going to let this control me. I'm just going to keep walking. I'm going to do whatever I had planned for the day and just. And if I'm super afraid and that fear thought keeps coming up or whatever, like, I'm just gonna do it anyways. And there is a lot of power. It almost takes away the power of it. Because you're like, okay, this can affect me maybe emotionally, but it's not gonna affect me in, like, my mission for the day or for my life.
Kristy Wieland May [00:39:37]:
It's very empowering to not stop you.
Morgan May Treuil [00:39:39]:
Yeah.
Leslie Johnston [00:39:40]:
It feels like something that you thought was gonna control you, you now have a little bit of more control over. Yeah, I guess.
Kristy Wieland May [00:39:45]:
And I think anybody who has struggled with any form of mental illness, I mean, granted, I'm not, I don't intend to go anytime soon, but to cross over into an existence with zero anxiety, complete peace, I, I, I can't even imagine.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:01]:
But you're not.
Kristy Wieland May [00:40:02]:
I'm not going anywhere. I'm not going anywhere. But I'm just saying there's a lot of.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:06]:
Don't go back to the porch. I know.
Kristy Wieland May [00:40:08]:
Go back to the porch.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:08]:
And Morgan was sobbing.
Kristy Wieland May [00:40:10]:
There's a lot of. There's a lot of hope for all of us.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:13]:
Yes. But we're just.
Kristy Wieland May [00:40:14]:
Every season.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:14]:
But yes, good. Good for us.
Kristy Wieland May [00:40:16]:
Well, good things. Yeah.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:17]:
But we're not going yet. We're not going.
Kristy Wieland May [00:40:18]:
We're not going.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:19]:
Mom, you are so wise.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:20]:
You're so wise, being wise in this.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:23]:
Glad I did it. It's good. Grandma loved having forced her to do it, but Grandma wouldn't do it herself.
Kristy Wieland May [00:40:27]:
Yeah, I said those little.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:29]:
See right here. She said right in the middle.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:30]:
Not as I do.
Kristy Wieland May [00:40:31]:
Yeah. But I did it.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:33]:
So thank you for coming on the podcast. And next time you're in town, we need a. We need a part two. We got a lot more to dive into.
Kristy Wieland May [00:40:40]:
Thank you for having me.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:40]:
Thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Am I Doing this Right. You need to go over to our Instagram and like, and follow. And also you subscribe to this and leave comments on Spotify. And then you need to listen next week, too.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:54]:
You need to do all those things.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:56]:
That's all your things you need to do. That's it.
Leslie Johnston [00:40:58]:
Awesome. All right, see you next time.
Morgan May Treuil [00:40:59]:
Bye. Bye.